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    Post interesting pics and videos from CES 2017. Preferably audio gear, but any cool tech stuff flies as well
     
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    LG OLED TVs at CES 2017 Including the 2.6 mm Ultra Thin LG Signature OLED W7 TV

    As you might expect, the LG OLED TVs made a big splash at the company’s CES press conference. The 2017 lineup includes four model lines that are direct descendants of the 2016 models—B7, C7, E7, and G7—along with a new line designated W7.

    Like last year, all 2017 models exhibit essentially the same performance; the differentiators between model lines are features and cosmetics. Among the highlights of the new models is a 25% increase in brightness—LG claims they can reproduce up to 1000 nits in small areas of the image. Also, the new OLEDs cover 99% of the DCI/P3 color gamut, a slight increase over the 97% achieved by last year’s models. And like all OLEDs, the new models achieve virtually perfect black levels thanks to the emissive nature of the technology. In fact, all will be certified as UHD Premium by the Ultra HD Alliance.

    Another feature common to all the 2017 OLEDs is Dolby Atmos capability—specifically, they can pass an Atmos bitstream from internal apps and external devices connected to the TV’s HDMI input via HDMI ARC (Audio Return Channel). I asked if the Atmos bistream was sent from the optical digital-audio output as well, but no one seemed to know for sure. In addition, all the OLED TVs simulate Atmos sound using DSP—and, in the case of the flagship W7, a sound bar with two up firing speakers.

    Like last year, all OLED TVs offer compatibility with HDR10 and Dolby Vision high dynamic-range content, and they will also support HLG (Hybrid Log Gamma) and Advanced HDR from Technicolor after a firmware update. A feature called Active HDR emulates dynamic metadata with HDR10 and HLG content; Dolby Vision uses dynamic metadata, which can result in a better overall HDR picture because each scene can have its own metadata rather than a single set of metadata for the entire program.

    Almost as interesting is what the new OLED TVs don’t have. First, all are flat; there are no curved models this year (huzzah!). And none have 3D capabilities.

    The entry-level B7 will be available in 55″ and 65″ screen sizes with a “Blade Slim” design, while the C7 features a premium aluminum stand and bezel in the same screen sizes. The next step up is the E7 with LG’s “Picture on Glass” design and a soundbar stand in screen sizes of 55″ and 65″.

    LG’s “Signature” designation now applies to two model lines, the G7 and W7, both of which will be available in 65″ and 77″ sizes. The G7 sports the Picture on Glass design and a foldable soundbar stand, while the new W7 (seen above) features a design called “Picture on Wall” with unique hardware that lets you mount it nearly flush to the wall—there’s less than 4 mm from the wall to the front of the screen. In fact, it does not include a tabletop stand. As mentioned earlier, it also includes a Dolby Atmos-enabled soundbar that delivers 2.0.2 Atmos sound.

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    The magnetic wall-mounting hardware for the W7 lets you bend the panel slightly.

    As usual at CES, pricing was not announced, but the new OLED TVs are expected to ship in April. I’ll post more about these sets once I get a good, up-close look at them, so stay tuned!
     
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    Reasonably priced and what looks like solid and tasteful construction. Hifiman please take note.

    This is their first time getting serious about full sized headphones IIRC (outside of their on-ear and Bluetooth options), looking forward to seeing what they bring to the table.
     
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    A quick note about the Klipsch headphones.

    A Klipsch representative is seeking feedback for their new premium headphone line. I contacted him via Headfi to see if we can get a prototype in Marvey's hands to help point them in the right direction tuning wise. Hopefully they are actually serious about getting community feedback.

    Headfi thread: http://www.head-fi.org/t/824094/klipsch-high-end-over-ear-your-input-appreciated
     
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    Update from Steve @ Klipsch regarding the new headphones:

    "So...some details not released at CES:

    The ear pads will potentially be magnetic so you can swap them easily. We will have multiple choices for ear pads, different materials, etc.

    Balanced cables are also part of the plan.

    If we get some excitement, I'm willing to make something special for the Headfi'ers

    - Steve"
     
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    Would have expected Klipsch to do a deal with Beyerdynamic since they appear to have the same response target with their products.
     
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    I love my new DT 1990's so that sounds good to me but I don't think you meant it that way. Do you think Klipsch speakers have piercing treble or something? The Heritage speakers seem to be pretty well regarded.
     
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    I have a hard time tolerating their horns.
     
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    The fact that the cable connections are identical to the Sony MDR-Z1R makes me wonder if Sony is involved in some way. The swivel point is in the exact same place as well. Also, Sony has great deal of experience with bio-cellulose drivers. Just curious, tech sharing is pretty common. Nikon DSLR's use image sensors made by Sony.

    Also, you can see Klipsch's headphone amplifier in the lower left of the second photo with the copper dial. Price is $500. Remind you of something? Maybe Fostex is building these?

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    Apparently, the Fostex amp was just for display. They are working on an amp that is a ground up design but the casework wasn't ready in time for the show.

    I will say that I am pretty happy with how transparent Klipsch is being with their headphone gear.
     
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    regarding the klipsch.
    When manufacturers make something often times they buy parts from no-name Chinese / Japanese companies that sell them without any guarantee that no one else will use them. That most likely doesn't mean the Klipsch has a collaboration with Sony and Fostex, but that they didn't do enough research when buying their parts to ensure that they were original... Or what is more likely is that they do not care since you must be living under a rock to not have heard of the Z1R. Also what matters is not what is on the hood but what is under it. Sure two red nos'd out honda civics can both have the same spoilers and rims , made by the same companies but whats under the hood is what matters. Even more so they can both have the same engines but its what has been done to them and what is hooked up to them that will make all of the difference.

    I personally think its silly that they have the same headphone connector. They get a -1 for that. That makes Audeze's original 'made in my garage' gimbals a little more appreciable or should Audeze be copying others as well?

    Can't say they don't look 'lit' though.
     
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    Over at Headfi, Klipsch confirmed that this is a collaboration with Fostex who are making the biocellulose drivers. Also, these are prototypes, those gimbals might not be final. Foster is an OEM for a lot of companies, no idea if they make parts for Sony though, they are huge so I wouldn't be surprised if they did. On closer inspection, there are differences between the Klipsch gimbals and the Sony ones, not totally identical but very very similar. The headband connection is different as well. I'm not gonna complain, I think the Klipsch cans look badass.
     
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    right on.
     
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    There's only so many ways to skin a goat.

    The Z1R is comfy, I don't mind if more people stole their gimbal system (or the HD800's).
     

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