Sennheiser HD660S Speculation

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  1. ultrabike

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    Fear not my friend. Just post random shit there every 5 minutes and you'll soon reach Headphoneus Supremus level.

    EDIT: I'm being too sarcastic about Head-Fi. Not all of Head-Fi is necessarily like that. But there is definitively some of that, and the site does not seem to discourage it.

    Also, obviously curious about the HD660S. Hopefully @Tyll Hertsens will be considered as an early reviewer. Note that the fact that Sennheiser provided Jude a sample before providing it to @Tyll Hertsens (and maybe not providing one at all) does not pass the stink test for me. Very possible I'm reading too much into it.
     
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    Did not meant to discourage anyone from posting.

    At least Jude got to hear the cans and even measure them. Perhaps some other folks had that chance as well. Those are data points.

    @SSL, those definitions are what they are. But it probably maters little as long as we can communicate.

    Did a quick search, the release date seems to be November 16 for the HD660S. Found some relatively large discounts on the HD700 too.
     
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    I think everyone should reserve judgement before you guys actually can hear it or read reliable review.

    That said, it is unfortunate Dr.Meier cannot order HD660S due to ridiculous Sennheiser order system. I guess us Americans will get this headphone a bit late.
     
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    Thank you for explaining them to me. I expect it is easier to make sense if with knowledge of the mathematical basis of the terms.
     
  5. slankoe

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    Yes right on, that's somewhat how I imagined it. Cheers :)
     
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    This is not entirely on track, but this IS a speculation thread and people were discussing pads earlier so...

    Dekoni has partnered with Massdrop to release a "premium" line of HD600/HD650/HD6XX (and soon to be HD660S) earpads.

    I speculate that the fenestrated sheepskin pads on the HD660S will make honey come out of your ears.

    Also, why has it taken Sennheiser this long to make an all black HD6XX variant? I was a little pissed when the HD6XX was announced in satin dark blue. Sorry but no, dark blue does not fall into the badass color spectrum. Even if the HD660S is only AS good as the HD650 I'll undoubtedly end up with one anyway because colored plastic is dumb.
     
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    I have fenestrated sheepskin on my th600 and they're quite comfortable, much cooler than the stock pads.
     
  8. Thad E Ginathom

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    I bet that's nothing to what happens to the sheep when they fenestrate them :eek:

    Did you notice, i expect you did, how they go on about excluding unwanted external sounds? Ha! On an open 'phone that allows even me to hear that the cat is at the door! What nonsense.
    OK ok, my only real comfort problem with the HD600 is the humidity thing. Maybe the fenestrated-sheep thing would be good. But its too expensive.
     
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    Very good answer Marv. But we still have to work on your penmanship and I am afraid it doesn't match the Common Core Standard answer as it makes sense. I've contacted your parents to discuss an after school enrichment program. But for your effort you received a gold star schlong on the "Everybody is Above Average" wall. Of course you will receive full credit for the assignment as will zerodeefex, even though he didn't turn in the assignment and has missed class all week. His parents complained that not giving him the same grade as you would hurt his feelings, embarrass him, and lower his self-esteem. Naturally we caved to their complaints, blamed his teacher for his complete lack of effort, and placed a letter of reprimand in his teachers file. (It was a good week).
     
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    As a teacher, I'm really having to fight the urge to derail this into an educational debate. *Deep Breath*

    So, that 660S, eh? Looks cool, huh?
     
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    My apologies for going off the rails. Mods delete if you want. *deep breath*. So how do the standing waves in a headphone cup differ in decay time compared to a small listening room? Hey and what about those two neutron stars colliding 130 million years ago, and we detected the gravity waves. I bet the HD660's will sound better after being exposed.
     
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    Common core is well intention misguided bullshit that any kid can learn to think like Einstein. It's like trying to teach Jeremy Lin that he too can fly like Air Jordan or smash people like King James. Ain't gonna happen.

    The scary thing that some people in radical academic circles actually believe that it all comes down to techniques used in teaching, and that individual aptitude has nothing to do with it. This is what happens when people theorize in a bubble rather than actually do in the field.

    Personally, I think Common Core is a Communist plot to destroy the United States, to make sure that most kids suck at the fundamentals while they dream of being elite.
     
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    Stick a sock in it
     
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    Agreed.

    Stick to audio, dude.
     
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    To be fair, I think I understand your point. Common Core seems hard, perhaps unreasonably so, and crafted by academics. But then, going any further opens up the education debate, which is best avoided.
     
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    I barely made it into university as an engineering major. The reason was that my fundamentals were not strong enough - largely because I was put into experimental smart kids programs that supposedly taught me how to think rather than how to do.

    Engineering is all math. Having extremely strong fundamentals in math is crucial when applying higher level concepts. The foundations build on top of each other, and when solving more difficult problems such as differential equations or integrating in three dimensions, a student cannot afford to be farting around trying to remember or figure out lower level sub problems. They need to know the lower level stuff like the back of their hand.

    It's not that the higher level concepts are not important. It's just that they will naturally be arrived at through repetition. And if not, they can more easily be taught after mastery of simple problem solving.

    My son breezes through all this stuff. My daughter, who is three years older, can't do multiplication problems as quick as my son. I feel Common Core failed her. She can't do single digit multiplication with speed because of lack of drill work, and she still can't conceptualize like my son, who can break down double digit multiplication in his head as a series of easier problems. Common Core did not even the playing field. It made it worse.

    Any engineer will tell you that it's repetition, drills, doing math problems, solving more math problems, and having strong basic problem solving skills that enabled them to get at least a C- in the seriously difficult courses (dynamics, differential equations, or for aerospace, fluid dynamics ... ugh).
     
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    My son is a third grader in public school. Don't get me going on Common Core, particularly when it comes to math. :mad:
     
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    And to add, not everyone can be an engineer. Engineers (and math and physics guys) are like the Marine Corp of academia.

    I don't think my son can be an engineer. He's too lazy and won't torture himself solving problems repetitively much less do it for fun. Most engineers and math guys I knew loved solving math problems and doing every single problem in the textbooks, including the ones not assigned. The ones who didn't seem to work hard? They worked their asses off too on the basic fundamentals. It's just that they never let anyone see them doing it, because they liked to f**k with people.

    In engineering, not everyone wins. I was #11 in my first math class of 160. Then I was #24 in my second math class of 80. Then I was #28 in my third math class of 40. By the time I hit dynamics and differential equations (seriously, I was so traumatized that I blanked out those classes), I said f**k this shit and changed focus to computer architecture. No amount of understanding of higher level concepts would have helped. I was a lost cause. There simply is no evening of the playing field. I understood the concepts, but I sucked at doing the work.

    I was however good with computer architecture, CPU, ALU designs because I did weird shit like learn 6502 assembly and machine language when I was a kid instead of doing my trig homework. I didn't know exactly what I was doing as a kid, I copied from books, and sprinkled in my own code. But the repetition of writing code that would sometimes do stuff like accidentally erase the contents of the 5.25" floppy disk helped build up my fundamentals in this area. By the time I hit the architecture classes, it all made sense. I ended up petitioning to take the graduate level courses, with the professors' permission of course because my fundamentals were strong enough. Don't even bother designing parts of a CPU if assembly or machine language scare you. Sure you can talk about it, like those fucks on AnandTech or Tom's Hardware, but that's all.

    And to this day I have nightmares of not graduating from university.
     
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    hello,

    [QUOTE="Any engineer will tell you that it's repetition, drills, doing math problems, solving more math problems, and having strong basic problem solving skills that enabled them to get at least a C- in the seriously difficult courses (dynamics, differential equations, or for aerospace, fluid dynamics ... ugh).[/QUOTE]

    it is the same in Philosophy.
     

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