Bottlehead Kaiju Build

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  1. Lickumms

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    This is currently a work in progress so please be patient. I also have a pretty bad Essential Tremor when working on small precise stuff so I probably isn't going to be too pretty. So far though everything has been going pretty well.

    The first thing I did was paint the top plate a dark cherry. I then painted the bell cap, and the 2 PC-5 transformers. They were suppose to be more blue but for some reason the paint I used ended up looking really green. So now my Kaiju is Christmas themed. Then I glued together the wooden frame and stained it dark Walnut.
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    Here is a picture of the fully assembled back before you start wiring. Putting the Transformers on by yourself is kind of a pain in a ass.Not sure why my photo is upside down.
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    First problem occurred right at the first test to check the incoming voltage. I apparently was a little overzealous when removing the outer sheathing on the wire and had snapped on of the solid core wires internally. So I had to replace the whole section connected to the IEC.
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    I thought I had taken a photo of the PT-9 to send power to the tube sockets after wiring it up to work with the 122V I measured coming in on the previous step. Either way after they had me test the connection on the PT-9 they had me put the tuibes in to do a glow test to make sure the power was flowing to the tubes.
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    You may not like it but this is what peak wiring looks like. Only the greatest electricians can hope to wire this well.
    Second screw up. While trying to remove the outer sheath on this cable I bumped my elbow and cut a full 1.5" off the end. I didn't have enough of the wire left to make a piece long enough so I had to splice and solder a short piece to the end of the cable I chopped short. Then to make maters worse I had soldered and trimmed the other end of the wire to the wrong connectors on the pot. So I had to de-solder that and the one wire wouldn't reach to the lug it was actually suppose to go to so I had the splice another piece of wire to the other end of originally to short wire.
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    Besides the 2 screw ups everything else has been going smoothly. So far my tremor hasn't been to much of a hassle on the build. Though, I start working on the C4S boards tomorrow which is where I imagine most of my struggle will be. I will post more photos of the build tomorrow when I take more picture.

    edit: For some reason my pictures were upside down. I fixed that.
     
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    Part 2:
    Today I started with wiring up the 9-pin sockets on the board. It went well. Even with my shake. The directions were easy to follow and understand. I accidentally touched the plastic stand offs with the soldering iron. Just need to flatten the top and everything should be fine.
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    After the 9-pin I soldered on some caps and finished connecting the 4-pin tube sockets.
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    I then added some connections between boards and caps. With that, the majority of the soldering on the panel is done.
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    Now to start on the C4S board. The first thing I had to do was physically connect some resistors and a small potentiometer.
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    Next, I had to solder all the resistors to the board. The real MVP for helping me solder was the little clam I used to hold the board in place. With the clam I was able to better steady my hands while soldering. This is the one I used. I highly recommend buying one if you are going to be doing small precise soldering. It is only $10 and 100% worth it. https://www.amazon.com/Neiko-01902-...b+holder+for+soldering&qid=1676692928&sr=8-33
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    Added more to the board.
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    Soldered what I added. I am waiting for my smaller wire snipers to arrive so I can trim the ends closer to the board. Was suppose to get here today but UPS decided it was too cold to deliver to my farm.
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    The final addition of parts to the board.
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    The final solder of parts to the board.
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    Second board same as the first. All-in-all it took me about 2.5 hours to build both boards. So not to bad.
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    All I have left is to connect the boards to the plate then wire to match the ohms my speakers are. So the next update should be the last. Until I add the DC upgrade.
     
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    Turns out I'm just blind. The smaller wire were delivered. They were just in a small envelope.

    After finishing the boards the next step as to connect the boards to the 9-pin tube sockets so they can run the input tubes. and
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    After fully connecting the C4S boards all that was left was to wire the amp up to run at a specific ohm level. My current speakers are 10ohm. Which falls between 2 of the wiring options, 8ohms and 16ohms. I decided to wire for 8ohms since that was closest to what I'm using. According to the manual it doesn't really matter what you wire for. Just that being closer to the ohms of the speakers could help lower the noise floor. It is pretty easy to change the ohms the amp is running at. All you have to do is change the locations the red and black twisted wires a soldered to.
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    The final wiring step. Just had to hook the red and black wires and a couple more resistors up to the speaker jacks. Which was oddly the hardest part. Since it took forever for the solder points to heat up.
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    Finally done. Here is the finished project all hooked up and working.
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    All-in-all, not counting painting, it took me 3 days to build at about 4-5 hours a day. So right around 15 hours from start to finish. The build was very straight forward and the directions were super easy to follow. Having a printed out full-color manual was a great help.

    Over all the build was more difficult than the Crack with Speedball. I would say it was a moderate difficulty to build, but still very manageable. I was able to build it without any real problems with my tremor and complete lack of knowledge in electrical schematics. If you are able to follow step-by-step directions with pictures I would highly recommend giving building this speaker amp a try.

    The only odd thing about the amp is that the left and right side have separate volume potentiometers. So I would recommend running it wide-open connected to a pre-amp. I currently have the amp connected to the outs on my Master-9. I believe the BeePre by Bottlehead was designed to be paired with Kaiju. Maybe in the future I will give the BeePre a try.

    I will post on the sound later. Once the tubes have a chance to burn in.
     
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    Now to look at getting better 300Bs. Any suggestions would be appreciated!

    Forgot to mention. I'm using the amp to run a set of LSA Signature 80 speakers in a near field location. So the Kaiju has plenty of power to run the 86dB speakers. I'm currently running my Master-9 at about 30 of 100 on a logarithmic scale. So the speakers can get super load for my current set up.
     
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    I completely forgot I made this thread. I did add the DC upgrade to the amp and replaced some of the Caps. Will try to find the pictures I took of that build.

    Kinda got caught up in tube rolling. Trying to find the tubes I preferred the most.
     
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    Congratulations on the Kaiju it has as a good reputation and after building a few of the Bottlehead kits myself the Kaiju was on my short list but in the end I went for the Elekit TU-8900 to scratch my 300B itch.

    How have you got on with tube rolling I've only used the Cossor WE300B clones which have been superb but I'm obviously curious about other options. Have you found any favourites so far from your tube rolling?
     
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    It was actually between the Kaiju and the Elekit for me as well. I ended up going with the Kaiju since I had already built a couple bottlehead amps and loved them. Did you get you Elekit from vkmusic.ca?

    I own quite a few 300B tubes. Haven't put much time on a lot of them due to medical reasons.
    I would say, of the ones I've tried, the best bang for you buck would be the Genalex PX300B. Everyone love the Elrog ER300B and I got to say it is probably the most natural sounding tube I've heard. Plus it had great bass extension and highs. I just find that on my ceramic woofers and ribbon tweeters the highs can get painful with the tubes. Will have to try different input tubes to see if I can find a set I like.
     
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    Hi yes VK music Canada shipped to UK I was originally looking at the TU 8600 or Kaiju and had seen good feedback on the amorphous transformer upgrade for the 8600 then the TU 8900 was released and I got on the early bird promotion. Also I built a Bottlehead Mainline which is a superb amp but it requires regular bias checks which doesn't take long but is a faff as you need to invert the amp to measure and adjust and the Elekit had auto bias adjustment.

    Victor of VK music was excellent even had facetime meeting prior to purchase I wouldn't hesitate to recommend them.


    What preamp are you using with the Kaiju the Bottlehead BeePree?
     
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    I do really love the Mainline. I kinda forgot you are suppose to recheck the bias on the Mainline. I haven't done it in years and it still sounds great. Should probably recheck that though.

    Right now I'm using my Audio-GD Master-9 as the pre-amp. I do plan on getting the BeePre in the future.
     
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    I didn't even know about the bias check on Mainline.. missed that in the manual. Suppose I should check mine.

    @Lickumms What headphones have you run with the Mainline that you like the pairing?
     
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    I haven't really found anything that doesn't work well with the amp. Though, I haven't tried anything super sensitive. Surprisingly I think I prefer the ZMF Aeolus and the HD800s on the Mainline over the Crack.
    Since I don't own any IEMs. I guess I could try my RAAL with the TI-1b, through it to see if that would affect it.
     
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    Have you tried using your Mainline as a pre with a TRS to 2 RCA adapter? I have done this quiet a bit and liked the results. PB from Bottlehead once mentioned that if he didn't have a BeePree he would use the mainline in a heartbeat for a pre duty.
     
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    Well, damn, I must have deleted my pictures of changing the caps and building the DC upgrade. I will have to take some new pictures of the finished product.

    P.S. Changing the caps made the second biggest difference in improving the sound right behind changing the input tubes. The 300Bs make a much smaller impact, for way more money, than the caps and input tubes did. If you plan on building this amp I would honestly first focus on changing the input tubes then the caps then add the DC filament upgrade, if you want it (will explain how it change the sound once I take the pictures), then change the 300Bs.
     
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    That is a really good idea. The Mainline is an excellent and super clean power source. I will give that a try. Currently working on harvest so it will take me a bit to get to everything.

    Actually I don't know that I have an TRS to RCA anymore. I think I gave it to my dad so he could run the speakers I got him off of his phone.
     
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