Comparison of Mid-Fi DAC/Amp Combination Units (Grace, Schiit, iFi, LH, JDS, etc.)

Discussion in 'Headphone Amplifiers and Combo (DAC/Amp) Units' started by purr1n, Oct 30, 2015.

  1. Psalmanazar

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    Quick question: Does the Modi mute the windows volume control in exclusive mode with WASAPI or ASIO?
     
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    @purrin have you tried the groove? as a transportable solution
     
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    Based on my memory of the Geek Out 450, I feel the groove is inferior to it, and thus to the Geek Out V2 in most regards. It's been awhile since I owned the Geek Out though, so take what I saw with a grain of salt. I'm curious what Purrin thinks about the groove.
     
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    Yes. The Windows volume control becomes inoperable and other applications cannot access the Modi when using WASAPI in exclusive mode, at least with JRiver MC Player.
     
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    I think the fact that I forgot to pull the trigger on Friday for the Grace tells me that I didn't want it. It looks slick and all, but the Schiit stack probably will better suit my needs, and is slightly cheaper.
     
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    I uploaded a photo all all the units together in the first post to get a sense of the size differential.
     
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    That alone and the wart makes it worth buying over JDS Labs ODAC driver hell.
     
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    I actually had difficulties with the JDS driver installation. Windows 7 wouldn't recognize the USB. I believe it's a Saviaudio SA9027 USB receiver. In these kinds of instances, I will manually install the Microsoft provided USB Audio Class 1 driver. In this case, it didn't work. I finally updated to Windows 10 (since the rest of you guys beta tested for me already), and the JDS worked.
     
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    The ODAC is supposed to use generic drivers. Is it at least not USB powered in The Element?
     
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    if the USB were bus powered, the PC would pick it up upon plug-in. However, I found out that the power button had to be turned on for the USB to be picked up. First time I've used a Saavik Audio USB receiver, so not really too sure. I believe the JDS uses a TI LME buffer chip for the headouts.
     
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    The DAC part can be powered from an iphone http://www.headfonia.com/review-jds-labs-element-bravado/
    Who knows if that means the power comes from the phone or you can just plug the phone into it.
     
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    Mmm, Heard about the ODAC USB issues before. So far no issues with plug-n-play with my GO V2. That is, no more blowing up my ear drums when I plug it freshly to my laptop.
     
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    Apparently it is USB powered: http://www.head-fi.org/t/786883/dc-area-head-fi-meet-impressions-november-7-2015/15#post_12062416
    Very disappointing from JDS Labs for a desktop unit.
     
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    Whaddya know, this made it to Schiit's facebook page! Some of the comments on blind reviewing really rubbed me the wrong way though, particularly after reading about Tyll's thoughts on blind testing during Big Sound as well as various other posts on SBAF, where people have, if not demonstrated, then at least explained the possible introduction of bias of a different sort by blind ABX which would also influence their opinion of a piece of gear.
     
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    Should I go for the Lyr2/Bifrost Multibit stack instead of the GOV2+?
     
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    for what headphones and what source?

    having to choose between that option, with full sized ortho headphones: Lyr2/Bifrost Multibit for sure if you are willing to dip $150 into a better pair of tubes.
    if Sennh HD6x0: go with Bifrost Multibit/Valhalla2.
    if you have IEMs or trivial to power mid fi headphones: go with GOV2+.
     
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    i really wanna know about fulla
     
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    Just out of curiosity, after they replaced your unit (or gave you a better USB cable, not sure which) did that change any of your impressions?
     
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    It was just the cable change. Still sounds the same.
     
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    thanks for the insight :)
     

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