Eddie Current customer service story

Discussion in 'Headphone Amplifiers and Combo (DAC/Amp) Units' started by thoth, Dec 6, 2019.

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How much is EC responsible for the lost amp?

  1. < 5%

    40.6%
  2. 25% (give or take)

    21.7%
  3. 50%

    23.2%
  4. 75%

    10.1%
  5. > 95%

    4.3%
  1. iDesign

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    UPS has led FedEx in global revenue, satisfaction, and logistics in almost all studies for several years. For consumers in the United States attempting to import/export packages, the single best advice I can give is to learn about the US CBP clearance processes, compliance, and USITC harmonized tariffs. Although FedEx and UPS offer useful brokerage services, you can avoid those fees by completing the clearance process yourself. I should also point out the USPS depends on multimillion dollar contracts with the FedEx, UPS, Delta Air Lines, United Airlines, American Airlines, Kalitta, Hoovestol, Eagle Express, etc. etc. for their domestic transportation, US Mail, Priority Mail, and Priority Mail Express services. USPS's aging infrastructure should make it the last option for any consumer or business. I have consistently found that UPS has far more advanced logistics and tracking technologies as well as skilled Teamsters than any other carrier-- it is for these reasons I pick UPS.
     
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  2. thoth

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    Address from recovered package, in case anyone doubts it:
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    I would contact Craig with instructions to debug the amp. Bridges were not burned. He still diligently replies to my emails, but keeps repeating it's not his fault that I didn't insure, and that package got returned. He ignores all my questions about compromise/agreement/split loss, as if he doesn't understand what they mean.
     
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    Curious info about how durable a package must be, from USPS employee:
    "My best advice is that I tell every one do not mail a package if you cannot drop it 4 feet and have it land on the floor. That's how far it can fall into an empty bin on an APPs parcel sorting machine."
    https://qr.ae/TZlwuh
     
  5. iDesign

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    @purr1n Can you confirm that Eddie Current address? (Note: this post has been edited)
     
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  6. purr1n

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    Godamit, just STOP. We're not doing a CSI.

    Both addresses are legit.


    I know we want to help, but we cannot help. All we are doing to extending the pain that @thoth feels. There is nothing we can do. We are completely powerless to the actions of Romania Post and USPS, or possibly criminals. All we can do is lend an ear to @thoth. All we can do is rest in the discomfort of this situation.

    The only comfort we can give @thoth is that members here feel that EC is partially responsible.
     
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    Reading all 9 pages, I really wish there is a good ending to this @thoth
     
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    I do think point-to-point wiring found in EC amps is much more vulnerable than circuit boards. There’s just a lot of torque and spring in those lead-supported discrete components—that makes them especially susceptible to vibration. My EC amp arrived with multiple components loose, despite superb packaging.
     
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    EC should start using the expanding spray foam, used for insulation and sealing cracks, inside AND outside the amps.

    Or just silicone. Everywhere.
     
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    A box within a box. The inside box surrounded and supported with magnetic shock absorbers adjusted by computer 4000 times every second according to an accelerometer.
     
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    Need Rick from Rick and Morty.

    Maybe Craig is really Rick in our universe and doesn't give a shit. He kind of looks like Rick. And has a good whiskey habit too.
     
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    But that would then mean you’re his Morty?!
     
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    Did not vote in the poll
    How much is EC responsible for the lost amp?
    It's the wrong question.
    How much is EC responsible for delivering a working amp.
    is the question I would vote on.

    Having said that, I think that, after 9 pages, all that can be said has been said and purr1n is spot on now...

    No idea about @thoth's financial status, but a loss 25% of this would be devastating to me. So yes, deeply sorry, thoth: wish there was something more useful to say.
     
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    Completely agree with @Thad E Ginathom: To ask if EC is responsible for losing the amp is a clearly biased question constructed to indemnify EC on shipping-related problems. Obviously, the post-office is the most responsible in some moral sense.

    We could equally (and more fairly) have a survey that asks: How much is EC responsible for ensuring a working amp arrives to a paying customer? Or we could ask: Who is responsible for arranging return shipping on a DOA amp? Was EC helpful in resolving the situation? There are many other ways in which EC is likely to be more at fault than this survey suggests. That's not to say Toth isn't at least partially responsible: I think he might be. For me, the matter shakes down to who pocketed the insurance money on the original outgoing shipment.
     
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    I think we all know that EC is 100% responsible for delivering a working amp. It's just how business operates.
     
  18. thoth

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    Hi guys. Wanted to give an update. Sorry I didn't write so far. Was just too upset about this whole story and in the meantime had all sort of personal problems to deal with.

    The PSU package arrived back to me about 2-4 months since Dec 2019. So nothing was lost in the end. I managed to repair the noise. The chokes were dangling inside the PSU box. I fastened them back. Also power tube sockets were very wobbly, they got half-unscrewed from vibrations probably. So after fixing these 2 the noise was gone. But the SQ is still underwhelming. I contacted Craig hoping he can provide paid repair. Naturally, he didn't reply. Now I'm on my own fixing it. Hope you guys can help. Will write in the Studio Jr thread. https://www.superbestaudiofriends.o...-studio-junior-not-af.7527/page-2#post-414508

    Thanks for all the support!
     
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    Have you been listening to it the past 3 or so years, and enjoying it, and it recently started sounding bad? Or did it always sound bad?

    Like others said at the beginning, bring the amp to a reputable electronics repair shop. Point to point wiring is not very complex, depending on what went wrong on the amp. Something as simple as a bad solder joint, bad resistor or cap could cause hundreds of strange issues and mess with the sound.
     
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  20. thoth

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    It always sounded bad. I didn't use it in the past 3 years. Unfortunately I don't have a reputable electronics repair nearby. I have a friend who is a sound engineer for a local band and also maintains their guitar amps and stuff. He is my hope to fix the amp once I know exactly what the problem is. But I wouldn't trust him to debug the amp.

    The way to go should be voltage measurements I guess. I wrote more details in the other thread.
     

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