NITSCH Sound Pietus Maximus Optimus Prime Review - The Touch

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    Extra hairy?
     
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    Is the DAC card in there able to be swaped out, just in case for future updates? I've forgotten if Schiit all in ones allow this also..

    I wonder what the chances are of that transformer humming / vibrating outside of USA. All of Schiit products hum / buzz to some degree because of that transformer. I've had some very loud components before and have confirmed with other Schiit owners in NZ / AUS.
     
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    It'll come in a Ragnarok chassis for the girth.
     
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    I do concur that the MMB2 highs are a bit prickly (especially with a headphone that already had a lot of treble like the HE1000 Stealth.) I may actually be returning it for a Modius 2E this week, but I havent 100% decided. I did *really* like the Modius 2E when it launched.


    From my experiences, using the NOS mode makes the MMB2 lose the prickly highs. I cannot enjoy the MMB2 in normal mode. But in NOS mode I very much enjoy the MMB2.

    Furthermore, I just got a Modius E and while it is worlds better than the original Modius I definitely still prefer the MMB2; especially using Modius E single ended. The Modius E does sound a little better in balanced mode with excellent bass and loads of detail. Unfortunately, to me the details do not sound natural. Mechanical is the only word I can think of and this makes realism suffer.
     
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    What I really enjoyed with this setup was Moidus E -> Magnius with an older HD580. Since the HD580 has near perfect timbre it was excellent, very engaging with great timbre.
     
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    turning listening time to the Pietus Maximus (with MMB card) with Meze 109Pro and Meze Elite and suffice to say, it's really good on both so far, more time before impressions get written down.
    searching for reviews, found a guy I don't know (because I don't watch audio reviews on YT) who explains some of the great traits of Pietus:

     
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    Interesting that he mentions the volume pot hum I also get on the Midgard. Weird designs from Schiit for this to happen.
     
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    It usually just means the lock nut holding the pot shaft hasn't busted through the case anodizing, so the pot isn't grounded. It's really not a big deal.
     
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    f**k it. Selling a couple pairs of sneakers and picking this up. Need to build a new transformer interface for this but I can’t resist.
     
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    Ah, that makes sense. Is there any way to DIY fix this yourself?
     
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    Is the DAC card equivalent to BF2 or MMB2?

    @purr1n
     
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    Don't hold on to the volume knob while listening to music? Similar to the Midgard, the buzz/hum is only there while holding onto/ touching the volume knob, so after adjusting your volume the hum/buzz shouldn't be there.

    I don't believe this is worth looking into fixing yourself, Schiit has already offered to fix this in the Midgard thread, but it seems it could be a part of the topology or design of the amps.

    Regardless, considering it's only somewhat audible while touching the knob, I don't think this is an issue.
     
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    Will write a thing on both cards in a bit.
     
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    Pietus Maximus w/ Unison ESS Universal DAC Card

    The built-in ESS is a fantastic match with the DAC. @CEE TEE mentioned a few things to me about this and TBH, I wasn't quite convinced, that is until I heard it myself. Once thing I've noticed about the delta-sigma DAC cards in the medium chassis Schiit gear of past is how good they were compared to the small external models (Modi). I'd chalk it up to maybe a more direct feed into the inputs of the amp despite not having all of the real-estate to do more stuff.

    This case is no different, I prefer the built-in ESS card to the external Modi+. External Modi+ is brighter and thinner sounding, not but much, the "digititus" rears its head a little bit here. Note so with the built-in ESS card, which sounds like like a Modius E lite. Meaning smooth, graceful, resolving, damped and solid - just a notch of the dial behind a full blown Modius E.

    Being curious (suspicious) myself, I looked up on the Schiit site: The built-in card is the ES9028 based like the Modius E. The Modi+ is ES9018. Makes total sense now.


    Pietus Maximus w/ Unison Multibit DAC Card

    The Multibit card likes like something between an MMB1 and MMB2. There's sort of a BF2/64 thing going on, not to that extent, but maybe halfway there. By this I mean organic lows with a edge in the highs. The edge is more lower highs than middle/upper highs. The bass is more pounding, but can be bloated and blobby sometimes. There's way more of an expansive sense of space in all directions, especially in depth. Ability to pick up plankton isn't as good as the ESS.

    The Build-In DAC Solutions With a Few Headphones

    I generally felt the same way about both DACs using LCD-R, JAR600 and Bokeh. Personally, I an partial toward the ESS solution. Never thought I'd say in a million years I would say this. While I really enjoyed the Multibit card for its expansive headstage, the cohesiveness and evenness from lows to highs with the ESS solution make it the winner. I also found the ESS less grainy. I thought with the LCD-R and Bokeh, I would prefer the Multibit card more, the these headphones' laid-back nature and Multibit card's edge would cancel each other out, but this wasn't the case. (the LCD-R also amplified the Multibit card's bit of graininess). Also, the Multibit card's lack of resolution felt like it was holding the Pietus back, almost doing it a disservice.
     
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    Re the multibit card...It is the same card as the MMB2. If you look on the Schiit site you can buy the module that would go into a Jot2, Rag, Lyr, Asgard, etc.
     
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    In a nutshell:

    If this was 10-15 years ago, I'd shit in my pants. There's a ton of good shit out there. Heck, I'd still have to admit that the Topping L50 ain't bad, like a well implemented version of Sennheiser HDVD600/800 amps. But we are not talking entry level here. As I said to similar effect earlier, the Pietus Maximus sounds too good.* Take Nitsch's Magni Piety, add grace, smoothness, clarity, ease, and control, and viola, we get the Pietus Maximus.

    Nitsch Sound x Schiit is basically destroying "no-mans" land, the range of products between $500-$2000. This is the range just past entry-level that is often loaded with craptastic gear that only slightly better than entry level at best. SBAFers have often advised, skip this range and go past $2000 or $2200 because this is the point when you will get real gains. Not so anymore. It's just scary how good solid-state is becoming with proper tube amp sensibilities, not with respect to the distortion and bloat, but with respect to emotional involvement.

    Those looking for a mid/hi range headamp should grab a Pietus Maximus ASAP and the ESS card as an easy no fuss All-In-One solution. The ideal external DAC would be a Modius E because of form factor and sonic synergy, but the ESS card isn't far behind.

    *WTF, I just checked the price. This should NOT be $499. It should be $899 for a proper SBAF value standpoint, and it this weren't a direct sale item, it should be $1799, taking inflation into account.
     
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    The MMB2 or Modi Multibit 2 is an external DAC. The Multibit card is not the same as the Modi Multbit 2. This is the same Multibit card that goes into Rag, Lyr, Assgard, etc. FWIW, while I know the Multibit card has undergone revisions and enhancements, I never cared for it, and I still don't. However, I know lots of people enjoy its sound, so don't let me stand in the way. i think it's great if you prefer a more classic R2R presentation with expanded headstage spaciousness.
     
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    Going off of the site, they are saying it is the same card as the MM2. Don't know how to post images in line here, but:

    "This module adds a True Multibit™ DAC with Unison USB™to any Asgard 3, Jotunheim, Jotunheim 2, Ragnarok 2, or Lyr 3. It features the same Analog Devices AD5547 D/A converter and our own time- and frequency-optimized digital filter on an Analog Devices SHARC DSP Modi Multibit 2"

    https://www.schiit.com/products/true-multibit-unison-usb-card
     
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    That said, I'm planning to use Modius E and compare to BF2 OG
     

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