Hmm, according to FR measurements I’ve found, it looks like many carts across most manufacturers have the rising middle/upper treble thing going on. I’ve been reading on the AT33Sa: 30db of channel separation, Shibata stylus, Boron cantilever It looks like the MC section of my Nakamichi TA-4A can handle it. The few random FR measurements look pretty good and price is current $749 at AT direct. And they supposedly have a trade in program when it wears out? The other, an MM, currently on my list is the Nagaoka MP-500. Current prices are steep though. Didn’t this cost a couple of hundred less a couple of years ago? The Van den Hul I was interested in, the DDT2 Special may not work on the Nak, since it specifies 200 ohm load impedance (Nak only has 100 ohm). A SUT or new phone pre is not possible right now.