Post your turntable setup...can't get enough of those spinners!

Discussion in 'Vinyl Nutjob World: Turntable and Related Gear' started by shaizada, Sep 28, 2015.

  1. JoshMorr

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    Welcome to the VPI Classic family - this got me wondering just how many people here own / have owned a variation of this table. By quick count you, Chris F, JK47, Mikoss, DrFindley, Marv, Shiazada, and most recently myself. Be sure to ask plenty of questions and share your process and journey, reading about it is next best to being there in person.
     
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    @Merrick Beautiful table! Congrats!!
     
  3. Wfojas

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    Congratulations on a great table! That platter will be collectible. Very few of them were made as they were too expensive to make, and avoids the handprints and smudges on the uncoated aluminum.
    They should also sound a smidge better (HW words, not mine).
    Great music awaits!
     
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  4. Chris F

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    Super sweet. You also have the mini SDS built in (motor in back) which is perfect if you are only buying once. DL-103 is a great match with the metal arm.
     
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    Man, fill me in about that Schick tonearm :) I just bought one myself, a 12" Nickel Palladium version for Ortofon SPU G shell type cartridges. I Have a spot for it on one of my Garrard 301 tables. I've never ever heard one....so very curious.

    Edit 1: Wait! U r in Manhattan Beach.....hmmmm! Meetup?
    Edit 2: Is that a Schick headshell as well?? Also, what is the exact Spindle to Pivot distance you drilled for? I have to keep that info handy as I'm reading conflicting crap online. So silly!
     
  6. Merrick

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    I was not aware of the mini SDS, I'm finding it surprisingly difficult to get a thorough rundown of exactly what the Classic 2 has that the others don't, most of what I'm finding online is for the current consolidated Classic table VPI is selling.
     
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    I have been doing some searching and I am running into the same problem, @Merrick

    I remember reading more information in print, when the Classic 2 came out. I keep thinking that it is somewhere online.

    VPI changes are kind of a moving target, though.
     
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  8. JK47

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    The only difference between the Classic 1 and 2 is that the 2 has VTA on the fly. It's the black knob near the tone arm pivot, that allows the fine adjust of VTA without having to loosen the set screw and turn the knobbed wheel on the base of the tone arm for VTA adjustment. I was clueless how to adjust my VTA until I posted in the VPI forum and got this detailed response.

    http://vpiindustries.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7175
     
  9. Merrick

    Merrick A lidless ear

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    Thank you! I am aware of the adjustable VTA. Is the mini SDS standard on all the Classic models? This is the first I'm hearing of it.
     
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    How are you liking that Wand tonearm? I've been so intrigued by it ever since I've seen one. How did you decide on it for use on your Technics out of all the tonearms out there? It is definitely an "out there" choice, so I'm really curious. It is such a wonderful tonearm every time I've heard it.
     
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    I'm not totally sure because VPI is constantly tweaking exactly what goes into what. The mini SDS was standard on all the Classic 1 & 2 with the 600rpm rear mounted motor from early 2014 onward. I'm not sure if that has changed in recent times. The Classic 3 and SE use the 300rpm motor and you use external SDS or better yet get the Phoenix Engineering controller.
     
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    This one has the 600 RPM motor, so hopefully it has the mini SDS included!
     
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    You can also swap out the motor for a 300 rpm one for $100 or so. Its a standard Hurst 3201-001.
    http://www.hurst-motors.com/papbdirectdrive.html#buy

    They will sell you the capacitor you will need for the voltage, also. Its a straight forward swap for the Standalone motors, not sure what's required on the Classics.
     
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    Why would the lower RPM motor be more desirable?
     
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    Lower rpms leads to less vibration and a lower noise floor. You will have to change the size of the pulley.
     
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    Alright...finally dipping my toes into vinyl. For one dumb reason or another, I decided to go for a vintage Sansui SR-838. Specs wise, seemed to tick a lot of boxes compared to similarly priced, modern TTs (maybe it's misleading, though). Looks good. Mostly manual, so less shit to go wrong. Supposedly one of the more reliable and better build DD TTs of that time period. Could be wrong. A lot of folks talk highly about it, but we know how much that means sometimes...

    It needs some cosmetic work but otherwise seems to run perfectly as far as I can tell after adjusting the tonearm and lift arm heights. It's missing its feet, so I am using something I had lying around that works well as far as I can tell (rubber and cork, square feet, something like that). Manual pitch control is funky but, thankfully, quartz lock seems solid for now. A pristine or nicely refurbished turntable of this type seem to go for close to or over $1K on eBay, but I got it for a fraction of that due to the cosmetic issues.

    I figure I'll need to recap it soon, as a preventative measure, and will probably dip into some other mods, like wiring replacement. For now, though, it's more about learning stuff about alignment, tracking force, etc. Had to replace the cartridge, so started with a basic AT95e. Attempted Baerwald alignment, and that seems horrible for IGD with this setup. Either that or A) it wasn't really Baerwald and/or B) I did it totally wrong. Going to experiment with other methods. Headshell has azimuth adjustment built in, so I used some tracks that I know are pretty damn close RMS wise in each channel and used my ADC to adjust for that with averaging. Better than eyeballing it, I suppose. Even stuff like figuring out the best way to clean records or keep static electricity at bay, which is a problem at my altitude and dry climate, are proving to be a real PITA so far. Hell, I'm pretty sure I already mildly damaged a couple of my new records like an ignorant brute, but they're replaceable. But it's kind of fun learning it all...and stressful. Even with my cheap-ass, no-idea-how-good-or-bad-it-really-is phono part of the Creative SB1240, I'm getting good glimpses into why so many enjoy vinyl.

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    I love it. I chose it because I thought price/performance ratio was great and it has the 10.3in version that fits the Technics.
     
  18. JK47

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    Greetings Earthling...
     
  19. Merrick

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    That may be an upgrade for down the line then. Thanks!
     
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    Still screwing around with different alignments and the like for my cartridge. Sounds really good the first half of the record and like a hot mess the latter half with modern rock or metal.

    Research leads me to believe that this sort of crappy material needs a cart like the AT440ml to properly track these areas, if all other areas have been investigated. Anyone listen to similar material, run into a similar situation, and get things in good shape without going to a new cart? (Still on the AT95e)
     

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