Chord "Mojo"

Discussion in 'Digital: DACs, USB converters, decrapifiers' started by Judeus, Oct 12, 2015.

  1. shotgunshane

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    True about Andromeda and zout for me, however I do not like how dark the mojo makes it. Strange combination, as it robs the wonderful Andromeda airiness. I do really like mojo's laid back presentation with other iems, just not Andromeda.
     
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    For what it's worth, I also did not enjoy the loaner Andromeda much from the Mojo. Or really any of my amps, for that matter. It sounded the best directly from the iPhone, despite a plethora of clicks and bleeps in the absence of music playing. Decently complimentary tonal profile combined with optimal OI yielded an outstanding pairing, there.

    UM Martian sounds quite good from the Mojo, given a premium USB cable and/or de-crapification device. One or both are necessary for optimal results, unfortunately. But don't overspend. Optical works okay in a pinch, though I find it subtly inferior to a solid USB connection.
     
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    With the benefit of a new portable rig for comparison, I'd say that the Mojo's biggest sonic weakness is its relative lack of engagement. Although that quality likely varies from system to system, I've concluded quite a few listening sessions with that impression having come to mind. It's been a fairly consistent takeaway.

    So, in light of almost 4 months of ownership, I'm willing to grant that the Mojo can be a little too easy to listen to. And that is a drawback. How significant it is depends, as always, on one's tastes.
     
  4. Warrior

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    Has anyone tried the Mojo with HD 650? I keep debating adding the 650s. Seriously considering using the Mojo as my DAC, and Valhalla 2 as the amp. Anyone pair the Mojo with any Schiit amps?
     
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    @Warrior: The Moby is better for desktop use than the Mojo. Wins out pretty handily. I like the Mojo best as a portable unit, not a system DAC.
     
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    Yes, I've done both.

    The Mojo w/ the HD650, while a very "pleasant" listen, is a bit on the laid-back side for me (both original and current HD650, and both sets un-modded).

    With the HD800S, things fair a bit better ... but I don't feel the Mojo really drives the HD800S with sufficient authority to be as convincing as other pairings.

    Also, I would not, personally, use the Mojo as a desktop DAC. The cabling involved dwarfs the Mojo, puts stress on the connectors, and having to disconnect/reconnect it periodically due to it's charging behavior becomes a bigger annoyance than I'd be willing to deal with. As a portable, phone/DAP drivable device, Mojo is, so far, the best thing I've heard, but my infatuation with it has waned significantly in any other capacity over the last year.

    With a desktop amp I'd go for a Modi Multibit or Bifrost Multibit before I'd do the Mojo. That's coming off the back of trying the Mojo, over time, with Vali 2, Lyr, Lyr 2 (both tubes and LISST) and even Ragnarok.

    YMMV!
     
  7. Warrior

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    Thanks, appreciate the advice. I just ordered new 658s and a Valhalla 2. I was torn between that and lyr2, but I think the val2 would suit my tastes better.

    I'll definitely add a desktop dac, not sure which way to go. Definitely a schiit dac. I love the Modi Multibit but like the flexibility of the Bifrost Multibit . May just go all out and ordered Yggdrasil though.

    I'll definitely give them a listen with mojo, but it's only going to be a listen. I want a desktop dac.
     
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    The Mojo sounds nice with the HD650. Very clean and tight. Perhaps too much so...It sounds slightly restrained compared to adding my Butte amp in the mix which gives it back some balls. Unlike Torq I am really starting to like the Mojo also for desktop usage with my sensitive headphones. I am carrying the Mojo everywhere and use it everywhere, so much so that I got rid of all my other desktop Dacs. If you are not planning to use its portability at all then do not bother though.
     
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    I use HD650 daily with my Mojo at office... very enjoyable !
    At home i use as a DAC connecting to my Genelc Speakers and Sub. I use 2 inputs. One Toslink input coming from TV, so while watching Youtube/Netflix or anything else.
    For music i connect Mojo to Oneplus one via UAPP. The good thing is that once you connect the USB at both end, it automatically overrides Toslink input from TV, so i don't need to take it out while listening to music.
     
  10. Warrior

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    I use the Mojo for portability, but it's fairly rare. I've done some ab comparisons with my mojo and P1. The difference in sound is minor between the two. Really not worth stacking. I'm pretty much at the point that I should sell the damn thing. It's a great device, just don't have much use for it.
     
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    I don't have the Sennheiser HD650 but I must say the MOJO pairs very well with my HD600 and Audeze LCD-X.
     
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    I did try the Mojo feeding my Valhalla 2 and I definitely enjoyed the rig very much. That being said, I want a desktop DAC, preferably one from Schiit. I prefer matching components whenever possible. Going to make a decision this week in which way I'm going.

    The 650s going straight with the Mojo sounds very good. A definite improvement over just my P1, although I think it may have more to do with the increase in power.
     
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    I really like my Mojo because of its form factor. I used it for everything from IEM, Dynamics to Electrostatics. I am now considering to get either LPS or decrapifier to improve the Mojo further. I can't find much friends here sharing regarding this other than I read somewhere LPS works better. Is there anyone here playing decrapfier or LPS with the Mojo?
     
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    Oh my god people on Head-Fi WON'T stop defending the Mojo. "It measures flat therefore it's flat" "It's doesn't lack any extension" when it's obvious that it lacks extension both ways. It really feels like a scam. They don't want to hear any negativity... I still enjoy my Mojo it's not like I think it's a bad product. Especially the timbre and details I find to be very good and at least it's not harsh but it is not what they say about it on Head-Fi.
     
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    I hear you. That's one of my biggest problems with HF. The fan boys. Mojo is a great device, but it has faults, like everything else. It's hilarious how people seem to get annoyed when others want to add amps. I personally think it improves the sound in my limited experience with it. Running the Valhalla 2 with Mojo sounds better, it's noticeably better, than without Valhalla.
     
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    Mojo is very susceptible to noise on the USB inputs ... but otherwise should be largely immune to other USB issues. It's designer claims it's best driven via it's optical input, which, of course, nicely skirts those issues.

    Not sure what benefit you're going to get from an LPS though, since the thing runs off it's battery. Seems like a needless exercise just to still have the battery management logic/implementation in your power path.
     
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    I prefer the optical input as well. USB is nothing but a headache for me with the Mojo.
     
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    I know this is a bit of a delayed response- but that's a really good description. It doesn't matter to me too much, as it's a travel/portable listen, mostly for commuting and sounds a lot better than my Nexus 6, but plugging it into desktop gear really did throw that into sharp relief.

    I enjoy the music plenty on the hoof, doesn't mean that the "pocket sandwich" isn't irksome, or that I wouldn't enjoy a decent dedicated DAP if one fell into my lap for a good price. If I was making all those purchases with the benefits of 20/20 hindsight, I think I would have gone directly to a ZX2.

    The terrible vulnerability of the USB to noise is a shocker- if there had been more honesty about that Elsewhere, it might have put me off.
     
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    Hmmm what's the take on the mojo. I have a zx2 and the geekout v2+ infinity. The go sounds good, but everytime I hear it....my hand just goes for the zx2 with the andros. From memory, I remember getting more musical emotions from listening to the mojo.....I am debating buying another one, though I don't like that i am going back to another product. I would like to move to desktop gear, but I am constantly moving between europe and us, and voltage differences and logistics make it impossible. Outside of the go v2+(which performs technically well), is the mojo the best portable dac/amp? I have iematch so it shluld work with mojo. Should I try the alo cdm...though the less resolving dac worries me. :(
     
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    Mojo's DAC is good, but Amp not that great..
    Just connect a decent Amp to Mojo and you can notice what's wrong/ what you are missing from Mojo's Amp :)
     

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