Schiit (MultiBit) Bifrost

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    Hopefully it will lead to a schiit eating grin of audio pleasure.
     
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    where SBAF differs from HF-
    we stop posting schiity pun jokes after the second occurrence.
     
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    Okay.. two bad puns and move on. Got it. My first was serious so I will save my second for another time.
     
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    just got a used multibit and its sound horrible compare to my uber? it sounds grainy dark and closed in. now i don't know if there's a problem with it because i had one hell of a time for windows 10 to recognized the dac . i had to use the alternative driver from schiit. has anyone else hear what im hearing with the multibit?
     
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    It needs 24 hours to warm up. It will change noticeably.
     
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    If it sounds really off, it might be a known bug. Try power cycling and switching through digital inputs. Sometimes a mixture of the two.

    Try using something other than USB input as well to verify.
     
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    i doubt it but ill give it a try and plug the Bifrost Multibit back in for 24 hours. i mainly listen to spotify and i set the dac at 16/44.1 should i change that settings?

    i also tried different usb cables i had a pangea all silver and a regular standard cable.
     
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    It has to warm up. Leave it on for a few hours to a day, remember to use direct ouput with asio or wasapi, and try something other than spotify as spotify and tidal audibly color the sound compared to just having the files on your computer playing from foobar or jriver. Also remember to turn off crap like DOLBY and windows enhancements that sometimes turns itself on when plugging in new stuff or installing new drivers. It almost sounds like dolby or whatever the crap realtek installs turned itself back on as I had that problem when installing windows 10, wondered why the windows sounds sounded like muffled dark low fiber poop and then turned off the built in dolby bullshit.
     
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    yep i disabled all enhancements, not sure what all the stuff you mentions (asio, foobar ect.) is all about. with my uber just plug it in and i was getting great sound with just spotify?
     
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    Another thought, since you mentioned the drivers - uninstall the Schiit drivers, and let Windows update install the latest CMedia drivers. This is actually preferable if it works, which it should. If they don't want to install, it usually means it doesn't like the usb port. Try plugging the Bifrost Multibit into a usb hub and then installing Windows update drivers.
     
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    Horrible, dark, grainy, closed...is it really that big of a difference? Small? Or does it sound like something is broken. Because those descriptors could be used for a weird sample rate bug I've heard on these DACs.

    A driver issue is possible too, especially on Windows 10.
     
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    Could be, but his Bifrost Multibit is used and I'm assuming the previous owner didn't have issues. Unless the bug is system dependent?
     
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    I wasn't so clear on windows driver, in w10 it wouldn't find the dac i have w7 computer that found the dac with the alternative driver from schiit. i plugged the usb direct in to the motherboard back panel. not sure what a usb hub does, does it seed more power through the usb cable or the digital signal part?


    will drivers make a difference in sq? i ask this because the uber still sounds great?
    not sure if it the difference is small or big but i can hear the difference instantly.


    original owner claims he only used the opt
     
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    It's a bug I've heard on the Bifrost Multibit and Moby, most often when you play one track at one sample rate, then another at a different sample rate (say, 16/44 to 24/96). There are other ways to trigger it, and yet there is no guaranteed method that will always trigger it. You'll know it when you hear it. It sounds...weird at best. Kind of like someone fed your music through an 8-bit, grainy music generator with a hint of LSD in the mix. Affects at least USB and RCA digital inputs. Only fix is to try switching inputs until you circle back around, powering it off and on, or a mixture of the two.

    Of course, I'm trying to get a feel for how large these "horrible" differences are. This bug stands out like a sore thumb. You can't miss it.
     
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    i tried to get the bug your talking about and it happen, i kept switching different rates and it happened. so no its not that bug i just cycled it and it went away.
    the music just sound blah except the bass. there is more bass with the multi vs. the uber, but the uber shines on everything else. multibit = a wet blanket over my ears.
    wtf i guess newer isnt always better.

    will drivers make a difference in sq? i ask this because the uber still sounds great?
     
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    You might just have a preference for the uber.
     
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    no way im the only one thinks that the multi sound closed in ,congested, dark , grainy, just a blah sound. not what im hearing. i don't enjoy listening to music with this dac. i plug the uber back in and everything opens up soundstage blooms instruments separate bass tightens up. all the reviews i've read say the opposite . my setup i can hear almost every detail with the HE-4 hp's. well i have about 10 hours of warm up still the same ill wait till tomorrow to see if there is a difference


    1) could it be possible that something on the multibit board is bad but still able to work?

    2) will drivers make a difference in sq? i ask this because the uber still sounds great?
     
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    1) I suppose it's not impossible.

    2) Probably not. But try optical or coax input to be sure something funky isn't going on.
     

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