Dummies Guide to Pi2AES! Throw away your PC or laptop.

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  1. earnmyturns

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    Airplay yes, Qobuz no. MoOde doesn’t support Qobuz directly, you need to use it as a UPnP or DLNA device. You would use software like Audirvana, mConnect, BubbleUPnP, or other option to connect to Qobuz. Then you select your Pi as the playback device.
     
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    Airplay from the Qobuz or Tidal app works on both MoOde and Volumio (and Volumio subscription isn't needed to use Airplay).

    Using the Volumio subscription, the sound quality is better than Airplay, but requires using the Volumio interface which is primitive compared to the Qobuz/Tidal apps.
     
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    have you compared them? Very interested in conclusive impressions about this.

    I find Volumio to be more buggy than primitive. If it worked better I’d be fine with how most of it’s designed. It’s just super buggy.
     
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    For Qobuz integration, Volumio is indeed primitive. But it’s still usable. And I’ll take the better sound over the convenience of airplay.
     
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    The noise came back (it seems to be worse at night for whatever reason). I tried this. I have the Pi2AES connected to an Ethernet cable snd using iPod as a remote like usual. Static blips are still there. :confused:
     
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    What is the ethernet cable you are using? Is it shielded? Cat7 or Cat8 cables will be my preferable choices.
    I am having good results with this cable.
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07VVFB8VX/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_1?smid=A1EA54VWB150Z7&psc=1

    Another option to connect your iPod, in case an USB is available on your router, is to connect it on the router and make it like a NAS. In this case, you could turn off the USB inputs on the Pi2AES. It may have some impact on the noise level.

    QJA

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    im not sure I understand the logic here though I appreciate the help!!!

    im using my iPod wireless right now. With the Pi2AES on WiFi. I’m hearing a static sound that comes in short bursts.

    I plugged in a very thick Ethernet cable and still heard the exact same sound. What are the chances I the culprit could be interfering with the Pi2AES and the Ethernet cable? Seems unlikely.

    I can’t replace the cable anyways though, it runs from the router (upstairs) out a hole in the wall and down a level to the ground floor and into a hole in my floor. I used an extension cable to get it to the Pi2AES.

    hopefully the NoiseNuke will get rid of it. But it will be some time before they get made.

    In the meantime :mad:
     
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    My apologies iPod connection is wireless. My fault.

    Based on your explanation, cable change is not an option for you.

    Related to ethernet noise isolation a Baaske Mi 1005 provides galvanic isolation and may help also.

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    unless @Michael Kelly do you have any ideas?
     
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    Forgive my complete ignorance, but I need guidance on how to set up my pi2AES.
    It's assembled, I flashed Mood into it, I'm in the setup portion of Moode on my phone's browser.

    I normally use Audirvana to stream Qobuz (and sometimes Tidal) from a laptop. Trying to take the laptop out of the equation. I normally use the Android app to interface with Audirvana.

    What do I do from here? When searching, all information I find seems to assume the reader is more knowledgeable than I am in these things.

    Sorry to come with such a basic request. I very much appreciate any push in the right direction that anyone can provide.
     
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    You are using iOS or Android (if you want to use your phone that is)?

    You can also turn on UPnP in Audirvana with it Qobuz access, then turn on UPnP Render in moOde. Restart moOde, then tell Audirvana on PC or phone to stream your music to the UPnP device (moOde).

    Let me know if you need help.
     
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    Edit: YMO beat me to it!

    If I understand you correctly, you’re intending to stop using Audirvana? For an android-only solution, I think BubbleUPnP is the most popular option. First you need to turn on UPnP in MoOde and then BubbleUPnP should see MoOde as a device you can stream to. For the iOS people, mConnect is the popular equivalent.
     
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    I'm on Android for the Audirvana app, and PC for regular Audirvana.

    If there is another way of doing this that has better sound quality than Audirvana, I am happy to switch.

    I believe I have upnp enabled on Moode, but Google and Audirvana are not really showing me where to find the settings to enable UPNP in Audirvana.
     
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    I don't personally use Audirvana, but do you see the Output setting by any chance? I could be wrong but it should allow you to stream as an endpoint/output to moOde.

    I guess someone who uses Audirvana can say more.
     
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    I got it, thank you!
    I'm a bit gobsmacked about this, but the bit of noise I've ALWAYS heard when using my Black Widow (without an ISOMAX transformer) is 100% gone, too. Just totally 100% gone as if it were never there. This noise has existed for the 4 years I've owned this amp, and with the previous owner as well. Granted, I'm currently connected using COAX (just for now, to get it set up and know Pi2AES works) and I've always used USB before, but that's amazing!
     
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    Arrgh, the fact that it has a diuarnal cycle suggests some interference from other gear that is preferentially on at night. I know that bad fluorescent ballasts can put out nasty interference. I've also heard (but never experienced) that some cheaper LED light bulbs can put out interference when conjoined with a dimmer switch.
     
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    I can’t stand these light sources I only have incandescent bulbs in this room. o_O

    my RCA switcher has some crosstalk between signals it could be super susceptible to interference. I’m having a better one made.
     
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    Unless the interference is traveling from a different room over the power wires... I lived in a townhouse that had horribly dirty power in the evening. Never found the source, possibly another unit in the development, but it prevented me from using power line ethernet, among other things.
     
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    Switchers will kill bandwidth of power line Ethernet. Some more than others, especially the wall wart switchers. I know from experience.

    The modern WiFi mesh stuff is 100x better than power line Ethernet. The WiFi that comes with those Arris and Technicolor cable boxes is horrible. :) It's like WiFi performance is their last priority.
     

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