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USB Nervosa Thread Decrapifiers, pro interfaces, and bears oh my

Discussion in 'Digital: DACs, USB converters, decrapifiers' started by zerodeefex, Sep 28, 2015.

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  1. Madaboutaudio

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    Looks like it's time for some of the guys here to sell their mc3+usb and rednet d16. :eek:

    Presenting the Ultimate digital interface box(192KHz support):

    multiverter MVR-64
    2.498,00 €
    http://appsys.ch/en/products/extenders-2/multiverter-mvr-64
    http://www.appsys.ch/downloads/MVR-64/MVR-64_Fact_Sheet.pdf
     
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    Which part of string theory predicts the multiverter again? Is there a universe where usb is the ultimate audio connection and we just happen to be in the one where decrapifiers rule?
     
    Aklegal, Sep 7, 2016
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  5. zerodeefex

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    You're not the target market. There are Da Vinci and Sire guys clamoring for higher end cables than the Lightspeed 10g.

    I won't comment on sound as I haven't heard this cable and I'm not a big cable believer, but, FWIW, this is a USB cable designed by someone who worked on the USB Class 2 audio spec and was GM of CMedia so he knows USB quite well.
     
    zerodeefex, Sep 7, 2016
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  6. GoodEnoughGear

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    Well if anyobe can drive gigabits through USB2.0 it would be him, then.:drunk:
     
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  7. zerodeefex

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    If you are the target demographic for SBAF and you are thinking of buying a $2000 USB cable, spend $30 on a Belkin Gold and the rest on a plane ticket so I can come to your house and slap you for considering the purchase.
     
    zerodeefex, Sep 7, 2016
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    Behold my sarcasm, if that didn't come through all the way :).
     
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    I do respect Larry Ho, but am curious for your impressions, that's a whopper of a price. I never realized this, but the Schiit USB receiver chips are Cmedia sourced.
     
    Wfojas, Sep 12, 2016
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    I said earlier, I'm not a cable believer. I never have been. There's a market of people who are but it's not me. I use a Gungnir Multibit ($1250) and a Vi DAC Infinity ($5000). If I bought a $2000 USB cable, it would be a huge life mistake.
     
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    I just read part time audiophile to cheer my self up. Someone dropping $50,000 on a record player, then comparing a tone arm that looks like a harry Potter wand prop for $7000.... Civilization is messed up so we can't complain....Would be nice to see if it works with Larry's expertise behind it...

    Only popped on to say that the shielding of the plastic intona has worked.... Rather well.... Call it what you will... a faraday cage...reducing RFI EMI what range of frequency is getting blocked don't know...
    Haven't tried MU metal yet but set up a simple earth lead to the Aluminium project case Tab crimp and just the earth on a Uk 3 pin... It's been a few people blindly trying things with no or minimum cost.
    I give up saying good..just different sounding to my liking. Induction, EM, gauss, eddy currents, parasitic capacitance.. Maxwell, faraday.... My head hurts... Still just terms to a non-engineer...The equations look impossible...
    So just my and a few others ears...

    Glad people had fun with tin foil jokes but worked out ok in the end. Would have loved some hard engineering advice..Best we got was John Swenson.... But 1" thick Aluminum was a bit out of our scope with our basic experiment...
    Here is a bit from The uber beard..Tyll.. from his AES convention about EMI. and headphones...

    http://www.innerfidelity.com/conten...ful-headphone-enthusiasts#I5cCFfpGDOt72oJ6.97

    HAVE fun
    Dave
     
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    I had to dismantle my digital setup to move my rack so I thought it would be a good to do a little listening piece by piece when I put it back.

    Here are my notes. I don't want to rehash what has already been well covered in this thread so I will keep it brief:

    2014 Macbook Pro USB -> Yggdrasil
    - There is some very subtle but "wear you down over time" glare/grain going on in the upper treble. Everything else awesome. What a great DAC this is.

    Macbook Pro USB -> Intona -> Yggdrasil
    - Big round sound. The treble issue is gone but the transients and imaging have taken a step back. It's easier to listen to but ultimately less resolving and less engaging. I can see where the "warmbutt shitsmear" observation might apply. It seems you've probably traded one issue (shitty USB PHY gremlins) for a different one (mediocre clocking with a USB bridge).

    Macbook Pro USB -> Mutec MC3+ USB -> Yggdrasil (AES)
    - Hyper resolution and staging but the treble grain has gone from subtle to "fatiguing within an hour".

    Macbook Pro USB -> Intona -> Mutec MC3+ USB -> Yggdrasil (AES)
    - Combines all the good stuff from the previous iterations. This is nice and finally a step forward from USB straight into Yggdrasil. You get the nice big round sound but without the transients and stage getting messed up. It seems like the Intona is fixing the USB issues from the laptop and the Mutec is fixing the clock from the Intona.

    I think my Mutec is still on FW 1.03 (it's for sure 1.01 or 1.03) and based off what I have read I think I will leave it there.
     
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    Looks like most of you fiends have already moved on to Lynx/AES turf but shit...

    I'm going to have to change my tune on the Mutec 1.2. I stuck a proper 75 ohm cable in this morning and I'm now discerning "a difference." (Previous test used a Ratshack RCA) Didn't dwell on it much since I'm waiting for the Singxer to get back from tour, so I'll test again then and listen closer.
     
    sphinxvc, Sep 17, 2016
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    A proper 75 ohm cable will be the correct way to set it up, for sure. The Singxer should also show a difference, as well. If it fits your setup and your preferences is the question.
     
    Wfojas, Sep 17, 2016
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    Ballsy first post. Analog stuff and price tags aside, Burl is in Santa Cruz, a hop skip and a jump away. Maybe @brencho and I should take a road trip. I'm a bit curious to hear that thing, but it looks a whole lot like D16 and Bifrost Multibit had a baby. The DAC section is pretty suspect to me at a $2500 price tag.

    Edit: Not even a Bifrost Multibit - A Bifrost.
     
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    Wanna sell me your classic records vinyl?

    Would be nice to have a loaner and bring to my place and compare it.
     
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    haha yeah i'd be down, plus santa cruz is like so chill man.
     
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    Forget all this noise, this is the cheapest ethernet audio solution: http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/RedNetAM2
    It's even got a headphone jack, fancy schmancy ethercon ports, and you can roll power supplies to your heart's desire.
     
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