How Not To Come Back From a Ban

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    trackballfrumpy Banned Member 64616e

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    This is my review of the ETA MS, MC, MO & O2. thought i'd share my impressions after nearly a year of eta ownership.

    All of my listening is from my pc, ipad air 1 or iphone 11 pro max. no amp or dac.

    Here is a spider chart I made up, also a few references like the ksc75, hd6xx and the discontinued MO so people who haven't heard recent eta maybe have a better idea.
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    Mini semi closed 32ohm - MS
    Mini closed 32ohm - MC
    Mini open 32ohm - MO
    Open 2 32ohm - O2

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    highlighted quick dotpoints of what I think each standout for

    MS Bass punch, wider stage, semi open sound
    The MS has a neutral tone and can be altered by sources slightly, and offers great extension. with this semi open design the bass is there but isn't as weighty like the MC rather more quick and punchy, mids are a little recessed but are clear and free of bass bleed. highs are clean with no nasties. soundstage and openness is very nice, perfect amount flow/vent from the front and rear to give great distance and accuracy with imaging while maintaining that semi closed environment. transients are snappy and enjoyable. detail and layering is very impressive all the sounds amazingly executed from multitasking creating a perfectly clear listening experience.

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    MC Bass extension, bass weight, isolation
    The MC has a neutral tone and can also change slightly off sources, also offers even more extension, Bass has some nice weight that is quite enjoyable when outside, really feel theres more tactility of it on my ears compared to the MS. sometimes the bass bleeds into the mids which can make listening blurry/fuzzy, but this can be changed with pad selection or tuning dot placement change which i found helped greatly. highs still remained clean with no nasties. for a closed back the soundstage is still quite wide similar to the 6xx but not as wide as the MS. Isolation is great for putting these on to ignore the outside or household noises and enjoy what you're listening to, though outside in a rather noise city these will not isolate enough. the imaging is quite enjoyable and remains accurate but is ever so slightly blurred off perfect, slightly trailing behind the MS. transients are again snappy and enjoyable. the MCs detail and layering are great for a closed back, defined and well spaced separation for enjoyable listening.

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    MO • Impacting/intense, earfeel, tactility • sadly discontinued. only 4 32ohm MO's in the wild :(
    The MO has a neutral tone which doesnt really change off source, and offers less extension, but as this is an on ear the bass/rumble grit and impact/intensity or tactility are far greater/exaggerated, something about the foam pads and the driver being so close with a far smaller room between ear to driver, which provides an incredibly exciting listening experience. mids are free flowing with alot of bite, very open sounding. highs are great with alot of sparkle in the top end. soundstage is sorta lacks, but i think the MO suits the close-ish staging, it makes for that upclose and personal tactile impacting sound that all the owners love. openness the MO is a very open on-ear with only the foam ear pads, front grille and rear tuning nylon mesh to go through, so open that you can see through the driver. Imaging is well defined but soundstage too pretty close to make good use of the imaging accuracy. transients are yet again snappy and enjoyable. detail and layering are as good as i can ever dream for, almost cant think of something with better detail and layering.. oh wait the O2..

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    O2 • Airflow/openness, effortless, clarity/detail
    The O2 has another neutral tone which i found changed the most by source over the others above, and offered similar extension with a little less impact from the far more open design. there is a minor low end bump that gives abit more grunt to the bass, but sometimes towers over the remainder of FR. mids have abit more emphasis and energy than the MO, highs have a nice little sprinkle of ev's tuning juice giving them some top end sparkle. soundstage lacks the most, id suspect its because of how close the O2 is to my ears. this is etas most open headphone publically sold, crazy amount of frontal and rear venting creating such an effortlessly easy sound from unrestrictions. imaging is well defined but the soundstage is too close to make full use of the defined and accurate imaging. transients are the best of the bunch being responsive and snappy but theyre no ksc75. detail and layering are the O2's strongest points with the openness of this headphone they're are so well executed from the openness removing any restrictions that cause a lazy/heavy driver sound

    O2 MO
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    i did not enjoy on ear headphones previous to biting the bullet with eta.

    eta should definitely appeal to those who are wanting competitive high end low priced hifi that can be driven off just about anything. only compromise for me is the aesthetic, but i spend more time wearing than looking at my headphones.

    performance > appearance

    links:
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    *removed eta discord link*

    thanks:
    MS, MC, MO measurements yoinked from @Vtory
    O2 unverified measurements yoinked from @E_Schaaf
     
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    I am not bold enough to say so allow Merrick
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    I doubt E_Schaaf sanctioned this after last O^2 launch thread yet you have access to Ev’s graphs. Rampant mutiny?

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    Vtory’s measurements are worth highlighting since they are so different from purr1n’s. Was there a tuning update?
     
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    Vtory is an approved measurement provider for SBAF while EV's are publically posted in the eta discord for anyone to see. mentioned what i was doing to the staff prior to posting, so i dont see a problem. reason for differences could be devices, could be zoomed out etc, not sure.. you're welcome to ask them.

    is there a problem with me making a overall post covering all of my eta headphones? @Philimon
     
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    If you’re not bold enough to say it don’t use my words to do it. That post you quoted was not my response to this thread.
     
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    No.
    You couldve posted in existing thread instead of creating a new one to highlight the measurements. Not thread worthy.

    The differences appear quite wide. Based on history Id guess Mini-C version 1.2

    Youre right, my apologies. Too bold. I thought we were team anti sock puppets.
     
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    Hi there, just want to clarify that there is no version 1.2 of Mini-C, there's only one version.
     
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    In that case ETA then it is thread worthy. Purr1n’s measures make Mini-c look unappealing and Vtory’s make Mini-c look better than Mini-s in my estimation. I foolishly passed on Mini-c loaner due to purr1n’s measurements. Please send Mini-c and O^2 my way for measures as Im also curious to try both. I am not just team anti sock puppet but also team pro thin supraaural pads.
     
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    purr1n Desire for betterer is endless.

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    You know how I say if the measurements are different then the gear really is different? Sure the couplers are different, however…

    The Mini C in the photo above has different pads than the one I measured which had these fuzzy pads.

    FWIW, I preferred the Mini C with the way I had them. Slightly midcentric with excellent bass extension. I did try the Mini C with better sealing pads and felt it was too thick sounding.
     
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    Mini C that I measured on the LEFT
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    That be a very very different pad that he one in the photo in the first post. Needless the say, my impressions of the Mini C are quite different than the one written here. There was no “bass bleeds into the mids … blurry/fuzzy” at all per @trackballfrumpy’s impressions. As implied earlier and knowing @vtory’s measurements, I would have preferred the velour ear pads on the one I measured.
     
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    purr1n Desire for betterer is endless.

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    Next time just ask someone to unban your old account. An account which you yourself asked to be banned.

    The optics are bad when you ask to have your account banned - presumably because you tried to be a cheerleader for ETA (which is perfectly fine), but ended up with convoluted statements that made their headphones unappealing in some ways (that they didn’t scale with better gear, loaner programs suck, you didn’t get a chance to hear o2 yet, etc.) - and then create a new account just to post a comprehensive overview of ETA’s current lineup.

    TBH, you would have been better off just acknowledging the dumb stuff, walking away from the computer, keeping your old account, and then posting what you did here.

    @Philimon maybe overreacted a bit, but many people have confided in me similar feelings.

    And no, you are not female and you are not from Africa (per your profile). What you’ve done is not only uncool, but dumb. I understand why some people may want to hide some info, but this isn’t the right way to roll on SBAF if you want credibility.
     
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    trackballfrumpy Banned Member 64616e

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    Idk purr1n maybe moderate your tickets and make contacting staff easier. You say that as if I hadn’t tried for weeks to get an unban with absolutely no success. Is what it is. I’m 64616e, yes I said some wrongful/slandering stuff, but you literally made the unban process impossible. Had I known the process was impossible I wouldn’t have asked for a selfban and would’ve asked for a temp ban, you probably didn’t know this as you haven’t been banned from your own forum... Again, is what it is.
     
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    I have the microsuede pads, and probably used them for a good 30 minutes before putting the sheepskin pads back on and never looking back.

    The microsuede pads on the MC made the headphone too open from venting pads, wider soundstage and unfun imo
    The sheepskin pads on the MC make the headphone isolated, bassier, rumblier with more earfeel/feedback imo.

    asked eschaaf for a clarity tweak, he directing changing of tuning dots locations. though my review is of stock MC with sheepskin pads, unmodded. which this tuning tweak fixed the bass bleed dramatically which is why i suggested it.
     
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    purr1n Desire for betterer is endless.

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    Dude, @Gazny and @tommytakis have my cell phone. There are probably 50 other people in the ETA boards who can get a hold of me easily.

    Still doesn't explain that you are 54 year old female from Africa. Just own it instead of making excuses.
     
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    please take this to dms or discord 64616e#0600
     
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    f**k off.
     
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    trackballfrumpy Banned Member 64616e

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    lol :Violin:
     
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    People have lives outside of the forum, and while you'd expect a more mainline operation to have snappy ticketing systems a la ZenDesk or similar, this is where the local dive bar analogy comes back around. I think it WAS reasonable to INITIALLY expect that the requesting process be reasonably easy to work with.

    But yeah shit happens. It wouldn't have been unreasonable to try asking someone else to ping a mod backchannel

    I got to chat with trackball-nintendo64 a bit in a call some time back and he's a lot less acerbic than he might come across via text. That said: dude you do come across really roughshod via text.

    @64: you did mention not wanting anything to do with the tweaking and nervosa of seeking "better and better" in exponentially more expensive increments back then, so thanks for taking the time to make this compendium after vowing to leave things be. It is remarkably useful. Hope you never feel dissatisfaction with what you have.



    UPDATE: @64, dude grow up. You weren't necessarily in the wrong to begin with but the way you come across shows that wealth is seldom contingent on maturity.
     
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    Your review looks like ETA put you up to it. Your response is making ETA look bad. Marv only wanted to help to you be more believable with the members here.
     
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    I call bullshit.

    646_idiot.PNG

    If old boomers who were banned could figure out a way to contact staff and ask for an unban, you can find a way.
     
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    purr1n Desire for betterer is endless.

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    Yup. Complete bullshit. Not hard to just create another account and DM me, ask if was OK, etc. just like any other normal person. Contrary to what people think, the mods very forgiving here, especially me.

    A ticketing system from SalesForce, ServiceNow, and Monday with several FTEs to manage things isn’t necessary.

    646: you just miffed that you got caught with stupidity at best and sockpuppetry at worst. Sorry, your mom isn’t here to clean up your shit.
     
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