LH LABS: Never received your crowd funded product?

If a real case for fraud can be made, the FTC could get involved: https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/...ty-kickstarter-becomes-an-illegal-kickstarter

I am not sure how easy it would be in this case since he did actually deliver on a couple campaigns and is protected? by the Indiegogo and Kickstarter TOS. No idea if getting him in trouble with the FTC would be easier than some sort of satisfaction from a lawsuit. I definitely don't think backers will get anything monetary out of any of these efforts.

 

For all I found it funny, that was probably a bit too far tbh. Karma will get to larry in the end.

 

No blood testing company and former unicorn/sillicon valley darling. Founder you may recognize as the young woman with long blonde hair and penchant for black turtlenecks.

 

Totally effed-up situation. And the part about George Schultz and his grandson Tyler is amazing/surprising as well. The 20-something grandson who worked inside the company blew the whistle and did the right thing while it appears the Presidential Medal of Freedom winner grandfather chose to stick with the company rather than believe his own blood (pardon the pun). Here's an article from the WSJ about it - https://www.wsj.com/articles/theran...yand-his-family-1479335963?mod=article_inline. Life can indeed be stranger than fiction at times...

 

I took it upon myself to snip and save that post, since....well, knowing how people are on their own forums, I'm not confident it will be there.

Then again, they're so bad at PR at this point, I wouldn't be surprised if they just ignored its existence.

 

Hell yeah. Your viewpoint carries real weight given your experiences, so thanks for wading in on the sad topic.

(I also especially like the "sad sack of garbage" part...)

 

I'm not worried that it will be deleted. No reason to do otherwise the whole two LHL threads could have been shut earlier.

It's not like HF ;-)

 

Employees getting screwed and getting underpaid. People who made introductions to other parties thought they were acting in good faith and have regrets about it. Keeps getting the worse as more people keep talking.

We had faith in the company thinking they were going to deliver the products people paid for. Sounds like the cockroach theory, seeing all these negative stories and problems are like cockroaches. Its never just one cockroach, more cockroaches are to follow. We have been getting bad news to bad news for years and I don't expect to hear any good news.

 

The much-maligned cockroach! Wonderful creatures! As long as they kept outside of the house.

I would like to think that continual lying in he face of obvious fact doesn't, in the end, wash with anyone.

Sadly, there are leaders of nations and of industry that prove me hopelessly naive on that one.

 

Have to admit I added my LHL sob-story data to the Sheet, and potentially wrongly assumed that there was someone on point to do something with it (thought that maybe the Markus dude pulling the sheet together had a bigger plan for it). And totally valid point about this being cheap therapy. I've pretty much written off the whole thing as a bad (and expensive) experience that I've learned quite a bit from. Also have to admit that I have almost no desire to put any more effort into this sad chapter at this point, but if someone was really wanting to dive into it "Carreyou-style" (that's a fricken awesome last name for an investigative reporter by the way) I'd be ready to help support them as best I could. Wonder if we have any takers out there? If not I'll just shut up and stop whining...

 

purr1n, Next time you write, "I've probably had half a bottle of wine ", I recommend that you just stop typing, delete, back out. No harm, no foul.
I'm guessing that you don't like getting advice from a stranger based on just one of your posts. I don't blame you. It's likely not fair. Probably if I understood why you were picking on people for not doing things your way and in your time frame and about a problem that you don't share I wouldn't bother pointing a finger. Yet, here I am - pointing one finger with three pointing back. I should stop, delete, back out. But I've seen so many helpful and smart posts of yours I have my fingers crossed that you, and I, can learn from mistakes.

 

This sounds more of that "lazy therapy" that @purr1n was mentioning earlier. Hope it makes you sleep better at night.

 

Well. ..i "just" volunteered to gather the info for the sheet. Anything else is a bit tricky on my side since I have absolutely no clue about the process to engage someone from the AG's office (not even sure if they can be contacted from a Non-US citizen. I doubt it honestly.). And from what I understood this is something where @Blake might help.

But I agree with @purr1n that so far we aren't even near the critical mass to arouse any awareness. Even if those guys who contacted me with "add me to the list" (without mentioning what they backed and for how much) and/or "need to find out what I paid, will get back to you" will be added, we don't have a huge list.
Not even sure if your proposal, @purr1n, to create a separate website would help here.

I find it strange that a lot of people in all the various forums "shout" but haven't added their info to the sheet yet.

 

I don't know so I'm asking.

How would legal action, over in those United States, begin on this? By one guy reporting being ripped off? Or by a bunch of guys going to a lawyer and talking class-action? And what is the criminal and/or civil law (punishment/compensation) situation there?

By the way: I'm hesitant to even write the words class-action. I'm sure it is widely misunderstood in America: the rest of us don't have clue. In both of the countries in which I have lived, people love to wave flags with "class-action" painted on them, conveniently ignoring the fact that their countries don't really have it. So being wary of my own ignorance.

And: No dog in the ball park. Just... been watching this story with sympathy and increasing interest.