@flatmap That's an interesting observation. My listening room is pretty small and it has been a struggle to get the placement right. The room is also far from an ideal listening space. My DIY Tubelab amp is 15 wpc, so there is plenty of power for them, but the amp seems to not be a great pairing for these. I'm going to try some tube swapping but I am reluctant to go down too deep into that rabbit hole. I think what I am missing most is a bit more top end extension and wish they had a bit smoother FR. Other than that they still have been a nice upgrade to my previous rigs. @Hrodulf Once dialed in, these have played pretty nice in terms of off-axis listening. I don't notice a major cliff dive in the treble. At the same time, like is often said about most full rangers, these also don't excel in terms of the ultimate extremes.