Raspberry Pi Streamer Nervosa Thread

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  1. squishware

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    I am waiting for my Pi2AES and doing lots of research on the world of Pi. I am also thinking of possible issues the system may have. I know we have some sharp minded members but if nobody replies I will likely find and post the answer.

    1. What do these mini OS use for security? Is this a back door to the network?
     
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    Protect your network and do not make any Volumio system directly accessible from Internet. If you use it as a player from a USB drive or NAS you are fine as long your network is properly secured. If you want to stream through Rpi box use it as a client to a properly secured system like Roon server, or LMS or whatever
     
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    It’s just linux(Debian) under the hood. If it’s not installed adding a firewall should be easy enough with some linux knowledge or some persistent googling. The package manager is working like normal from what i’ve seen. There are several you could choose from. Do note that when you enable a firewall you have to open the ports volumio uses but i’m sure that’s found easy enough. This goes for volumio but i expect others to be similar.
     
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    Raspberry Pi 3b or 4b for streaming?
     
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    I can't believe it we are in the era of $60 computers that you can use a keyboard and mouse. Add case and Micro SD and it's less than $100. I remember when I was five my dad paid $2000+ for the POS Apple Performa 6000.

    I was close to get the Pi2AES and Biforst 2 yesterday, but backed off since I really am into IEMs and DAPs. I wonder how good upload/download speeds are good on the 4 if I just want to use it as a music server.
     
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    Just remember, the Pi2AES can drive any DAC out there. Once you feel you have the DAC that matches the headphones that you want to use then we can drive it.

    There is a great thread that @purr1n created to get started.

    https://www.superbestaudiofriends.o...-to-pi2aes-throw-away-your-pc-or-laptop.8878/

    Michael

    Full disclosure - I make the PI2AES so I am a bit biased!
     
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    Your router should be providing the firewall between your local network and the internet at large, the Pi will only be visible to clients on your local network (e.g. 192.168.x.y) so there’s no way for an attacker to get at your network through it.
     
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    A hacker might be able to cut a hole in your ceiling and rappel upside-down to insert a USB stick with malware into the back your pi2AES.

    Seriously. No one wants your music or your porn or naked pictures of yourself. And all your personal information is already owned by the credit agencies, hence readily accessible on the Dark Web for bitcoins.
     
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    My latest thoughts and questions:
    WIFI or Ethernet?
    is WIFI better on Pi3 or 4?
    The best network is no network
    That said, does a touchscreen add noise or otherwise effect SQ?
    Assuming the screen works with Pi3 and is a non-issue with SQ. I would set it up free standing WIFI with the local files on a USB drive plugged into the Pi. I do not have a network now just a laptop and a phone that use the same WIFI but are undiscoverable to each other.

    PS: befriend a few IT guys and you will be very paranoid about security.
     
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    My guide stipulated the use of a Rpi4 2GB with 100% success. Is the $13 that you will save worth the psychological turmoil or possible issues? That's all I will have to say.
     
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    Who gives a fuck, it's essentially free on modern machines. Will it be needed? Probably not but that's not how security works. Do you lock your car in a safe neighborhood?
     
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    Think you answered your own question on WiFi. You don't need to to network the Pi at all and have your music directly stored or attached to it. Read Purr1n's setup--it's running off a USB drive.

    The touchscreen connects to the Pi, so a decent HAT would be fairly isolated noise-wise from it. Truth is, you'll probably get more noise from surrounding electronics.

    If you're really paranoid, search for a RPi 2. It has no WiFi.
     
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    My primary goal is to stream Tidal including MQA. Pi2AES and power supply is already ordered. I am still deciding which Pi and configuration which is the purpose of this thread. I am not just looking for what works I am looking at optimization. I am a maximizer.
     
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    If you want to be a maximizer, get this:
    https://taikoaudio.com/product/sgm-extreme/

    Otherwise just buy the Pi 4 and chill the fuck out man. It's likely going to be an improvement over your existing transport. You're supposed to be listening to music remember?
     
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    What are we doing here? I thought we are about Good Sound. How about you chill out in a different thread if you do not like this one. I named it nervosa for a reason.

    If you did not watch the video, Hans states that the Pi 3b+ sounds better than the Pi4 which is the reason I posted it.
     
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    Who gives a fuck if it’s free if you don’t need to do it? Do you lock your car in your garage? Anyone with a router on their local network would be better served by using its built-in firewall rather than leaving their network open and trying to put a firewall on each individual device.
     
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    Language people, please. It’s all good! And hopefully all fun. ;)

    Michael
     
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    Never said you should disable the one in your router. Also if a device on your network is comprised you would be glad to have it on other devices. And yes it doesn't take much these days just an intel cpu lol.

    But whatever good luck with this thread.
     
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    We're just looking out for you man. Just because you have nervosa and lampshade the thread as such, doesn't make it ok. Consider these 3 things:
    • If you're going to answer your own question, why ask? 3b+ may sound better, but more functionality makes life easier and if you're gonna go all tweaker about it, you could disable the modules in the kernel. But if it makes you feel warmer and fuzzier inside getting the 3b+, then get the 3b+ and get back to the music.
    • Is your gear downstream going to be resolving enough to appreciate (notice I said appreciate, not notice) the difference between the 3b+ and the 4? Quite frankly it took me a lot of money in gear downstream to appreciate the difference between USB solutions and the Rednet 3, let alone care about the minor differences between different Pi versions.
    • Is your source music good enough? I dropped my Tidal subscription when I realized it sounded worse than CD rips of the same albums. If you're gonna tweak on something, it's better to find better source material.
    Just remember, we're not here to listen to gear, we're here to enable listening to music better. Don't put the cart before the horse.
     
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    I hope this is the right place to ask this.

    I want to replace my Logitech Squeezebox Touch with a Pi device. I want to basically have the exact same thing plus a Parametric EQ and the AES output that @Michael Kelly has created.

    1.)Is this possible (PEQ + LMS in a simple / easy to use package)
    2.)What OS + GUI would get me there?

    I see all these different names being thrown around "Volumino, PiCorePlayer, etc. etc." and it is jumbling my brain. I don't need any sort of extra streaming services and can't afford Roon at the moment, so those features are not needed.

    Thank you.
     

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