SCHIIT JOTUNHEIM WORLD PREMIERE: Schiit Show 2 - August 27, 2016 So Cal

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  1. Erroneous

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    It's odd that they have a SchiitShow and just bring out their one new device only, instead of showcasing their lineup.
     
  2. purr1n

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    Were you able to try the other DACs (Moby, Gungnir Multibit, etc) with the Jotun, or was it all with the built in DAC?
     
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    Jotun built in 4490 only unless I used my phone or some other source that I didn't bring.

    I spent some time with the r80 TT as I didn't like the dac section much.
     
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    I'll be ordering one, I think. With 800S in balanced mode, or with prior-generation Savant single-ended, i like what I'm hearing. Of course the usual caveats about show conditions apply. I'm interested to hear it side by side vs. the Concero/Liquid Carbon stack. I can see it as the heart of a killer, very compact office system with a small, two-disc NAS and a microRendu.
     
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    I'm gonna call it now and say this was a phail from schiit. Just don't like this direction.
     
  6. zerodeefex

    zerodeefex SBAF's Imelda Marcos

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    I strongly suspect the amp section is the reason to come to this party.
     
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    The expansion slot and what they do with it in the future is, IMO, what this all hinges on. A meh DAC or a meh phono stage doesn't do it for me, but I sure hope they do some cool schiit with it soon.
     
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    I'd be hesitant to comment on the amp section if the only sources available were the built-in 4490 DAC and a phono stage from turntables and vinyl not deemed up to the task of serving as a reference. I want to hear the amp section with MoMB, BiMB and GuMB.
     
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    I am very surprised to hear that they didn't bring the full lineup to the SchiitShow...I was going to fly out from Denver and had to cancel at the last minute, but I guess now I'm sort of glad I didn't go. Not because I'm not interested to hear the Jotunheim, but because I would be much more interested in comparing it to their other competitive options before making a decision.

    Jason, if you're out there, I'm curious whether Schiit will bring a full lineup to the RMAF in October...
     
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    I have to say I'm skeptical of the value of the expansion slot. It has no master clock management (my understanding), no Adapticlock, and no multibit. And it's USB powered if I read things correctly. With so little space I don't see what else they can do with it, other than slap the latest D/S DAC chip on there every 1-2 years. Hard to believe it isn't holding back the amp significantly, even if it's supposed to be "no compromise".
     
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    Weird. If you call something a "show" I'd say that implies more than one product. If you only show one product isn't that a product launch plain and simple?

    Not very good for the people who are coming there expecting to be able to audition all kinds of different gear.
     
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    every year (for the past 3) Schiit has had the entire lineup at their large table to listen to rig #1, shuffle down a chair or two, listen to rig #2.
    from Fulla to Yggdrasil/Ragn.

    doubt that will change in 2016 unless the outdoor CanJam tent scares some folks/equipment away.
     
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    For example, Vinnie Rossi has gone full modular, albeit at a much higher price point: http://www.vinnierossi.com/configure-lio/
     
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    Great, thanks! Fingers crossed...
     
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    That's what I thought when I first read through @schiit's "chapter" about designing it, but on a re-read there was this:

    It's not totally unambiguous, but it sounds like he's saying they provide full power available to the expansion card. And considering he mentions wireless cards as a possibility, that almost has to be true, since it'd be silly to run a separate external power supply to an expansion wireless card.

    As far as the ability to fit multibit in there... yeah, I think this is a case where they pre-disrupted themselves with Modi Multibit. Because if Modi Multibit didn't exist, and the plug-in DAC is essentially a balanced Modi, you'd have to go up to a $600 standalone DAC to find something significantly better in their lineup, and this would make a ton of sense. But with Modi Multibit in the mix, this is kind of a weird sidegrade from a Vali 2/Modi Multibit stack.

    But I'm guessing that both the amp topology and the expansion slot are going to appear in more products over time, and make more sense as they expand out of this particular context.
     
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    On behalf of all of those who could not attend The SchiitShow, I would like to say thank you and applaud all who attended and posted their thoughts and impressions! Excellent coverage, pictures and opinions! I wouldn't expect anything less from the SBAF crew :bow:
     
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    I wonder if they had something more planned, but couldn't pull it off in time for this Schiit Show?
     
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    Considering this is a Bifrost Multibit-sized "Do it All", I wonder if Schiit might add another "Do It All" combo and stick it into a Gungnir Multibit-sized chassis. They could then squeeze in a multibit board and maybe even beef up or fix any issues (electronically or sonically) with their new Pivot Point topology. Admittedly, a Gungnir Multibit-sized chassis takes up a huge amount of desk space as taller is usually preferable to wide.

    I am surprised by the lack of multibit considering that is Schiit's signature technology right now. However, the lower end multibits seem not to be as universally loved as Gungnir Multibit and Yggdrasil.
     
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    It seems that they would want the Jotun to stick around for a few years: Who's to say what's down the road in terms of DACs. Perhaps soundprofiles for specific headphones like Sonicworks. Someone mentioned streaming ability. Inner-Fidelity just had a post about the market share of Bluetooth sets exceeding non-Bluetooth sets. From a production standpoint, it has to be easier to have a go-to mainstay chassis and change the other components.
     
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    A thing to consider: There's no reason these things need to stick to their existing sizes, because they're not intended to stack with anything. (Or, to the extent they are meant to stack, it might be with their speaker power amps, depending on how that whole product line-up ties in with this.) So rather than a Mjolnir-sized chassis, they might just use a taller chassis and put the expansion card on a riser. Or a chassis that's somewhere between their current sizes.
     

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