Schiit Ragnarok distortion analysis

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    Serious Inquisitive Frequency Response Plot

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    I initially wanted to see how much noise the Ragnarok really produces on its own.
    With inputs shorted and on high gain I got a figure of around 3.5uV at a 44.1kHz SR. That would be fantastic and I might've made a mistake somewhere, but the OG Ragnarok is a very quiet amp, that's for sure.
    I got a maximum output voltage of 20V_RMS, which makes sense given the 100W 4 Ohm rating. 20V*5A.
    That should make for a DR of 135dB, which would be crazy good. Again, maybe I made a mistake somewhere.

    Unfortunately I couldn't replicate the low OI. The output did drop a bit under speaker loads. Just something I thought I should mention.

    Anyway, the more interesting thing turned out to be the distortion under load. We normally don't see amplifier distortion measurements under typical loads. Heck, if we're lucky we might see distortion measurements under resistive loads or special speaker simulation loads. But that's rare.

    The Ragnarok might not be so easy to measure and even the sweep may distort things a bit. In order to get as low distortion as possible I played music for a bit and then went for the shortest sweep possible, a 512k sweep at 192kHz sampling rate. A 4M sweep definitely caused the distortion to rise. Even so there was some variation between different measurements.
    Here's what I got:

    NO LOAD (the scale is intentional):
    Schiit Ragnarok at 0dBV - no load.jpg

    AMON AS LOAD (even lower minimum impedance)
    Schiit Ragnarok at 0dBV - Amon load.jpg
    0dBV corresponds to a level of roughly 90dB at 1m.

    We can see that it's not so happy running the large OB speakers. In fact I think the D3 in the lower midrange could be higher than the speaker distortion at this level. The D2 sub 40Hz probably, too.
    So far I've only measured them with the Ragnarok, actually. I should confirm with my measurement amplifier.

    HATHOR AS LOAD (3 Ohm dips)
    Schiit Ragnarok at 15dBV - Hathor load.jpg
    15dBV corresponds to roughly 90dB at 1m. Even so it doesn't sound so bad to me at high SPL. But the Ragnarok is indeed no amp for low impedance, medium efficiency speakers. Going by my own measurements this is more distortion than the speakers at this level. Maybe it's just a Ragnarok measurement artifact.

    I intentionally did 15dBV so it corresponds to the same volume level. Even just 5dB quieter it's much happier. See the attached measurements. At 0dBV it's really quite good.


    Would be interesting to see similar measurements for other amps.
     

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    Serious Inquisitive Frequency Response Plot

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    I wanted to see for myself how audible this kind of distortion really was, so I recorded a couple songs with and without Hathor as a load at a level that corresponds to the same 15dBV at 0dBFS that you see above. Note that I posted the left channel, the right channel had less D2.

    The snippets were recorded with the MOTU M4 as a DAC and ADC, just the Ragnarok in between.

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    They are level matched at 1kHz, but not corrected for the slight FR difference.
     

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