Schiit Sol Turntable Review - Episodic.

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  1. ripblade

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    I'm using an SDS Isoplatmat, which is a constrained 3 layer (3mm) powder coated aluminum mat. I bonded it to the platter using a very thin layer of Mono acoustic sealant, which is a butyl rubber monomer that never dries, skins or hardens. The combination is completely inert, allowing the dynamics in the recording to pop from a dead quiet background. Long time ago on a different table I compared the SDS to a Boston Audio Mystic Carbon mat at over 3X the price. The BAM was slightly more revealing of natural timbres in acoustic instruments but not enough for me to justify the additional cost. In all other aspects of sound it was virtually identical in performance.

    It's similar in price to the Achromat, a little thinner and maybe slightly heavier. Another alternative worth considering. I had to raise the platter so it lay flush with the bearing cap to make it work. I don't know if this is still an issue with post-beta Sols.
     
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    Apparently, the Pro-Ject Speed Box S works with the Sol's motor! It definitely sounds cleaner... I also no longer get a loud pop thru my speakers when turning the motor off. Looking forward to the upgraded pulley, too.

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    A crazy idea just popped into my head.

    The limitations of the Sol for international markets was that AC motor. Since the Speed Box S uses an SMPS with flexible voltage input requirements you should be able to use the SMPS to accept most if not all forms of international mains power and the Speed Box to output what the Sol needs to run properly.

    Does this sound off the mark? I held off from getting a Sol because I am moving to Japan for 2 years but if this will work then I may be able to get myself a new turntable :)
     
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    I think the issue is not the mains voltage, for which you could easily get a different wall wart, but the difference between 50Hz and 60Hz mains. I'm not sure if even the Speed Box S will run correctly if fed with a 50Hz power supply, but a wall wart with the proper voltages would run at weird speeds.

    Edit: Oh, while I'm here, I did email Schiit the other day asking if the new pulley could be included with my Jotunheim 2 shipment. They said they are still waiting for parts, so the new pulleys aren't available yet... FYI for anyone who has been checking their mail for the new pulleys.

    Edit2: An international version COULD be as simple as having a different pulley, though, no? A 50Hz-based pulley, and a 60Hz-based one? I don't have the skills to make one but I'm assuming one of the geniuses around here could figure it out... that would be far and away the simplest and cheapest way to offer Sol internationally in my mind.
     
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    I think one @oneguy is saying is that an SMPS does not matter the mains voltage or frequency.

    Anyway, a different sized pully is how other companies like Rega and Pro-ject do their stepper motors for proper speeds with different frequency mains.
     
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    The pulley/speed thing has come up before. They're not supplying different size pulleys with the same motor because:
    As for using a Speed Box in a 50 Hz country - because its input power is DC, using a US Speed Box to generate 60 Hz AC should work Ok if it has enough power for the motor: the spec for the Speed Box says it's good up to 3W but the transformer supplied with the Sol is 8W. I'd guess the motor would be fine with much less than 8W, but probably best to ask Schiit before buying a Speed Box to try.

    Edit: Speed Box has been tried successfully with the Sol motor - see @oshitgorillas post immediately below (d'oh, I missed that on his post with the nice photo earlier :rolleyes:).
     
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    For what it's worth, the speed box actually seems more powerful than the stock wall wart... with the stock, I had to give the platter a push to get it started every time. The Speed Box has no issue doing this on its own (I still give it a push before pressing the power button).
     
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    @ohshitgorillas @rtaylor76 @Biodegraded

    Thanks for the responses. I should have been more clear with the process in my head but you guys worked it out (get out of my head!).

    Summary:
    -Speed Box’s SMPS shouldn’t care what freq it’s fed; it’s always going to output 18VDC
    -Speed Box takes care of outputting something the Sol’s motor can digest and operate as Schiit intended
    -Folks living abroad can run the current production form of the Sol without the need for Schiit to change anything
     
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    I found this awesome setup video by Conrad, who I’m pretty sure is the designer of Sol.

    I got a Sol coming to putz around with.
    I will compare directly with my Classic 1 and report back.

    Edit: Here is the link to the video on Conrad’s site (up since at least last April per HF) for the anti-YT crowd
    https://www.conradhoffman.com/Sol Support/Hardcore Sol Setup.mp4

     
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    Speed box coming in a week and Sol on back order. I should be rocking a Sol in Japan sometime in May.
     
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    Evidently there is a nice review of Sol upcoming in the March Stereophile? I've not seen it yet, but looking forward to it.
     
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    It’s a pretty positive read. Tl;dr take is it’s not a table for beginners, even if it’s priced that way. Some criticism for how fiddly it is.
     
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