Garage 1217 - Project Kameleon

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  1. Cspirou

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    I have been watching this project since its inception and it's great to see it finally come to market. In one sense it seems at odds with the concept of system synergy though... I guess if you hate your headphone on a certain setup it could be useful.

    The attenuation cable that Jeremy also announced is pretty interesting too...

    -20dB plug and play attenuation cable! (ready to order / $44.99)
    Specs:

    - Presents 35ohm load to your amplifier
    - 3ohm output resistance
    - Best suited for headphones 20-300ohm
    - -20dB reduction in output level
    - 6.3mm plug (to your amplifier) with 3.5mm jack for your IEM's or other (3.5 back to 6.3 adapter easy to source)

    Why it rocks:

    - Plug and play -20dB reduction for sensitive headphones
    - Added protection for using sensitive headphones with high power amplifiers
    - Significantly lower background noise (if your amplifier has hiss or even some low level hum - this adapter will really knock it out)
    - Built with rugged pro-sound grade components (Neutrik 6.3mm gold plug / 3.5mm gold jack) with aluminum shell
    - VERY nice Mogami Neglex cable used
    - Precision Vishay / Dale resistors used
     
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    The cable is interesting. Brings HE 6 to mind immediately.
     
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    Or Andromeda...
     
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    It's cool. I am a fan.
     
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    I have an instinctual dislike for EQ because it feels like it's messing with the sound. However I have no problems with crossovers or RIAA equalization, which can also be thought of as EQ and could be even more destructive to the signal then this device. So I probably just need to get past my bias and try this out.
     
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    I remember reading about this thing on diyah. How do the filter modules work? Are they just pull out/push in or soldered in?
     
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    I've been in touch with Frans and he seems like a very straightforward guy.

    I would be interested in the HD650 and HD800 filters but that wojld be a total cost of around $300. I just got Sonarworks for $50 on Black Friday. If they both do the same thing why pay 6 times more for the Kameleon?
     
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    Geez, it's analog hardware vs. digital software.
    Safe 50 more bucks and use EasyQ and diy.
     
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    The comment is fine. Dislike because you have too many "na" in your name.
     
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    You might to use an analog source. Or maybe your smartphone doesn't have Sonarworks?
     
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    I can fix that. If you have an android phone, PM me.
     
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    ...or you use an iThing.
     
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    iThing support will come. We'd rather iron out any UX kinks on Android and then commit to the final OSX version.
     
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    Full disclosure, I have been messing with the Android version, it's pretty cool- though obviously it's a somewhat simplified set of controls.

    Next awkward group, people using CD players, turntables and the like. There are plenty of people who might like analogue filters like this.
     
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    CD players can handle a DSP box between the transport and DAC. Vinyl... Digital phono preamps, anyone? *tomatoes start flying*
     
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    Yeah, I remember you talking about uploading filters to cheap off the shelf DSPs to do this sort of thing, I was mildly intrigued.
     
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    Are there any pics of the setup? Other than the dark ones on the site.
     

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