Kinki EX-M1?

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  1. TheIceman93

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    Looks like Charisma Audio is the North American distributor for Kinki. I’ve contacted them about a loaner tour for their headphone amp. I think they just haven’t updated their main site to show the brand but you can buy their gear on the web shop.

    https://charismaaudio.myshopify.com/collections/amplifer
     
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    Update: I emailed the previous distributor about the Kinki situation in the US and regardless of how people feel about him, I do appreciate his honesty. He said he was very happy with the performance of the Kinki amps, sold quite a few of them and his customers were very pleased with them. He said they are tough to beat for the price and are very well built. He was also happy with the company owner and had a good relationship with him.

    However, he decided to no longer carry Chinese hifi components in general for political reasons and didn’t want to support the Chinese government. He didn’t go into details but I suspect this was motivated by the situation in Hong Kong. This was a very recent decision. He wished them the best and said he still strongly recommends their products if you don’t have an issue buying from a Chinese company. He wasn’t sure if there was a new US distributor coming but he said Alvin at Vinshine is a good guy who will take care of you. Just thought I’d share.

    There does seem to be a push back against Chinese companies in the hifi market due to escalating political tensions. This bums me out because the quality of Chinese components seems to be going up and the prices are staying very reasonable. I’d love to buy American and European but I’m a student so I need to stretch my hobby dollars as far as they can go.
     
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    My warning with up-and-coming ChiFi gear is to avoid unless one or more of the following are true:

    1) It's cheap, so you don't care if it breaks, e.g. Nobsound JLH 69 amp
    2) The manufacturer has a long history of existence and servicing customers (Audio-GD)
    3) The manufacturer has dedicated local representatives (Matrix), not fly-by-night arrangements with dealers that come and go.

    This is why I really don't want to use SBAF loaner funds for Kinky amps or LKS DACs. Warranty? WTF is that? Anytime I hear "the distributor handles the warranty" with ChiFI products, I run away. The legal frameworks and customary practices around commercial transactions and servicing the customer are non-existent in the modern China Empire. If you want something made right by the manufacturer, you walk up to the owner and offer to break his legs. This is harder to do if you are 5000 miles away.
     
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    Then buy used, quality gear from reputable companies with adequate customer support networks or that are easily serviceable.
     
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    ^ you posted before I did.

    I was going to say that starving students should consider used Classe, Bryston, Schiit, QSC, Crest, Odyssey, Emotiva, Vincent Audio, etc. instead of $2400 ChiFi amps.
     
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  6. Lyander

    Lyander Too sensitive for SBAF

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    Speaking as a student whose entire rig is decent brands bought used off SBAF... Lol.

    The above is all excellent advice :p
     
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    Thank you all for the advice.
     
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    Thankfully haven't had any problems with my Kinki EX-M1 so far. Time will tell I suppose. I agree with Marv that used more reputable established brands are probably a good idea. However, I'm dumb, and wanted to take a chance on "good sound for the money" or whatever.

    I may get burned by this choice in the long run.

    So far the Kinki still sounds great to me for what its worth. I really like it.
     
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    Well as long as Charisma keeps Kinki as a brand, you’ve got 3 years of warranty coverage.
     
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    Vtory Illogical Spock

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    For bang for the buck things, no (less-known) boutique products can beat established/verified/confirmed brand products if
    1. buy used
    2. AND/OR hidden costs ('true' warranty, shipping, uncertain quality, etc etc) incorporated in cost-performance measure

    I believe the best part of going for "Chi-Fi" is NOT the best bang for the buck BUT (rather) kinda gambling or discovering pleasure. The latter could be a part of this hobby. I admit, and indeed am enjoy it. Mostly things don't work as intended (trade-off at best), but when works, there's very different kind of fun from the guaranteed products (such as Schiits). It must be irrational or insane.. but tempting. lol

    That said, I don't think Kinki is for starving students. It seems to serve those who seek for undiscovered difference (if not better), have fat cash, and are risk-favoring.
     
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    Kinki is top tier.
    If they somehow manage to establish a good network covering warranty and repair issues they are going to be very soon mainstream.
    In the meantime it's still some kind of risk.
     
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    Frankly, I wouldn’t believe the guy if he said the sun was shining.
     

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