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At this point, I simply don't feel the need to add anything further.

Other posters have very adequately explained why your interpretation of Israel's data is wrong, and why your sources are terribly suspect. Nothing I can contribute will help, and I simply am not going to invest any significant amount of time to try and change your mind. So here are my parting words, the best I can do quickly in my own Gish gallop.....

The vaccine was able to be developed so fast because of previous work done towards un-needed SARS vaccines. We had an enormous head start on the virus biology, and spike sequence.

mRNA vaccine technology holds such incredible promise because it allows rapid development, manufacturing and re-formulating versus old vaccine technologies.

Using lipid nanoparticles to deliver cargo to cells has been used for decades in other contexts.

Transfecting cells with mRNA to produce proteins and create immune responses has been used for decades in other contexts.

Finally combining lipid nanoparticles and mRNA technologies into a mass-market mRNA vaccine has been the dream for years, but there has never been the incentive to get it all together. The pandemic was finally sufficient incentive.

The mRNA vaccines are fucking fantastic. Surely one of the best safety profiles of a new drug I've ever seen. Billions of doses administered, about 1 in 100000 suffering severe negative effects, far, far fewer dying. These vaccines have NOT killed thousands.

The efficacy profiles versus the original strain are beyond amazing, Vaccinated people have 90% reduction in infection, 99% reduction in death.

Efficacy profiles against delta are not as good, but still great. Vaccinated people have half the risk of infection. One tenth the risk of hospitalisation. Maybe one-fiftieth the risk of death.

That's all I've got. There is simply no excuse not to get vaccinated.

 

Thanks from an old guy who isn't up on all the lingo. I have very recent experience with this phenomena, but didn't know there was actually a word for it. My new thing learned for the day.

 

Thanks, I understand your points better. I see the VAERS data a little differently.
Over 100,000 voluntary responses . Every medical response is certified by VAERS with a follow up call to the medical professional reporting it.
Cause and effect is not established and would likely need an autopsy in the event of death and further investigation.
In April, the CDC stated they had not seen any cases of myocarditis, in May they stated they had not verified any cases, and most recently, they'd seen enough and are investigating the link.
I know you know myocardtis is not trivial. The damage done does not heal. It's a life long affliction and the life span is threatened.
All from vaccinating boys who had no apparent risk from covid. I believe the FDA came to the same conclusion, that injecting young people led to the situation that they are more likely more at risk from the vaccine than the disease during the discussion about the booster shots

No mRna vaccine has ever made it thru trials, We are in the midst of the trial right now. As far as efficacy, you still get infected and you still spread the disease. It is effective as therapy only and in my mind there are other therapeutics with proven safety records.
And it's efficacy is waning. Many cases of blood clots and reported death are after the second dose. How many more will there be after the third, the fourth and who knows how many more? Can't say, the trial is ongoing.

 

This is like elsewhere on the internet, this is going nowhere, don‘t feed (the debate) I would have said, alas there is no real debate.

 

Well of course you do.

That is simply not true. You cannot ignore the non-death risks of COVID. Myocarditis from COVID is FAR more severe than from the vaccine, and likely strikes the same people. Natural immunity would also hurt these people.

mRNA vaccines haven't even made it to stage 3 trials before. The trials are now complete, the treatment is approved, and full usage is allowed.

This is not true. Vaccination halves the risk of delta infection, meaning it halves the transmission risk at an absolute minimum. Reduction in each of long-term symptoms, hospitalisation and death are far higher than this. The vaccine works.

It is a prophylactic. It cuts your infection risk, hospitalisation risk, and death risk.

No, there aren't. Hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin, zinc, vitamin D, invermectin.... none of these things have worked in clinical trials to reduce transmission, hospitalisation or death. You know what has worked in clinical trials to reduce transmission, hospitalisation or death? The mRNA vaccines.

That's the Astra Zeneca vaccine, which is not approved for use in the US.

Probably annual boosters, just like the flu. Coronaviruses have always been tricky for lasting immunity, as evidenced by coronaviruses causing about 20% of cases of the common cold.

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See that? You got another 5 minutes out of me. And it will be water off a duck's back. I'm out.

 

Since today is my birthday, can we debate the benefits of not wearing a shirt and have your chest hairs breathe the fresh air?

I will not be body shamed by being free as the wind.

 

I want to "epic" just this part of your post.

 

I want to ask you, if I have 1000 vaccinated people and 100 unvaccinated ones, and both groups follow the same rules of conduct about social distancing etc, and in each group five die of covid, what does that tell me about the efficacy of the vaccine?

 

Happy Birthday @YMO,

did you get a perm for your breast hair for the occasion or are sporting natural curls? I cannot compete with you very few breast hair and it is already grey.

 

Nope, I shampoo it. Thanks for asking.

 

Now, I still think I'm right but I'll let tis go. It seems to upset some people. I could do this all day and you will all suffer thru it.

Back to the gist of the thread topic.

Tua Tagovailoa is overrated and will never be an effective NFL quarterback. He is just too short to see the field and may very well have undiagnosed vision problems and makes bad decisions.
The Dolphins post Marino qb void is ongoing....

 

Free the nipple

 

Very much like the Lions' entire team void since...1958 was it? It's a bit mental how some teams can be losers forever even with multiple front office and team roster turnovers.

 

Did anybody else hear that rumour that @YMO wears a chest wig?

Shhh! Dear reader: I'm only telling you because I know you won't tell anyone else. And you won't tell @YMO that I told you. Right?

Seriously: be shirtless. Shirtless people smell less. Sweat naturally evaporates instead of growing stinky bacteria.

 

What I said:

“shares a curious similarity in function.”

From your own link:

“There may be similarities in how they work, but the two drugs are structurally very different.”

Obviously they can’t be the same drug, you can’t take an already patent free drug and make billions from it. What you can do is smear the much cheaper “competition” as something unfit for human use despite the fact that it’s widely used to treat human disease and apparently effective against covid.

 

Like this study?
https://www.theguardian.com/science...vid-treatment-withdrawn-over-ethical-concerns

Also:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01535-y

 

There’s a huge incentive to downplay the effectiveness of a drug that doesn’t make anybody any money. Ask yourself this: if ivermectin is so ineffective why are Pfizer and Merck rushing their own protease inhibitors to fight covid to market? And how much blood is on the hands of all the useful idiots who were pushing the “horse dewormer” narrative?

 

You know where else you can find protease inhibitors? In your fucking stomach, to stop your digestive enzymes from working once your stomach has done its job. Good luck using that to treat covid.
The problem with protease inhibitors is that they need to provide a better fit to the shape of the protease that they are targeting to be more effective, so the chemical structure is important. Ivermectin was designed to target parasite proteases which bear some similarities to covid proteases, so yes it would have some effect in a petri dish, but it would still be less effective than a chemical that was specifically designed to deal with covid proteases.

Here's how your question sounds to me:
Ask yourself this: if the Loxjie P20 is so boring why are EC and DNA building tube amps?

 

On one hand you've got actual evidence that the studies are flawed, on the other hand you've got vague suspicions that someone would benefit from making the studies look bad (nevermind that other people would benefit from making the studies look good). So what wins, actual evidence or vague suspicions?