MrSpeakers ETHER C

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  1. TimelessTele

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    A new Ether C on the way eh? Can't wait to see some updated impressions. Tyll's review really piqued my interest. Let's hope Dan fixed the issues you guys had with the original model.
     
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    Can we get the open Ether on a tour as well?
     
  3. No_One411

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    hahaha @purrin should have an open Ether pair to send out on loaner. :D:D:D
     
  4. murray

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    Can anyone say which cable is in Tyll's video review: standard or DUM?
     
  5. purr1n

    purr1n Desire for betterer is endless.

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    Indeed. I guess we also have an open Ether given recent circumstances.

    I ordered the C with the DUM cable because the regular cable sounds like ass.
     
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    If only Dan called them the Distinctly-un-magical-braided cables. I like that acronym better.
     
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    Would love to be a part of that tour. Tyll's review has gotten me hot and bothered.
     
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    As an ETHER-C owner, I have to say the 1.1 upgrade is not significant. It's just a single foam layer replacement (in case that's not obvious)... Anyhow, I liked the ETHER-C in 1.0 format, but I do like the 1.1 a bit more with my slightly bright work rig. But it's not a panacea of any sort IMO. I also need to copy Tyll's EQ profile and tweak a bit to see how that works out. He has more mid/high rolloff than I'm currently using.

    By the way, which closed phone with decent isolation and low sound leakage might be preferable to the ETHER-C in the opinion of folks 'round here??
     
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    ZMF Blackwoods, PM-3 Even.
     
  10. purr1n

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    The other possibility is that the C may not yet have be totally ready at the Schiit Show.
     
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    Never heard the former, but disagree on the latter having a co-worker who owns them. *shrug*
     
  12. bazelio

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    I'm interested in your report. Mine will be at the tax-day South Bay meet.

    For my $0.02 of the 1.1 vs 1.0 after less than half a day (and this is with the MZ2): 1.1 is ethereal on certain tracks where the 1.0 felt like a pick axe on my ear drum. So it seems a bit smoother, and probably slightly muffled at the higher end - which, for me, could be the right direction with the MZ2 in the chain. And then, for some reason, I seem to not be able to determine how the bass was affected by this foam. Oh, and of course, I also tweaked my EQ profile a smidge shortly after inserting the 1.1 foam, so.... hmm.
     
  13. jexby

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    was Ether-C "totally ready" (enough) for Dan to issue a mini press release the night before the Schiit Show?
    just sayin.
     
  14. Tyll Hertsens

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    Yeah, but only in the northern hemisphere...in Australia it sounds awesome!
     
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    I have a polarity inverter so I can emulate the northern hemisphere sound!
     
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    This is all a bunch of gobbledygook guesswork nonsense based on the Ether C I heard at RMAF, which some other SBAFers from the Denver area can attest did not sound good, and sorta-kinda trying to match that up with what Tyll has measured.

    First, quoting what Tyll said in his review (see measurements page):

    "THD+noise plots are a tad high, but fairly well behaved across the response range. It is possible that the noise background on the day of measurement was a bit high. The 100dBspl plot remains lower than the 90dBspl plot over most of its range indicating good power handling capability."

    I can't rule out noise background of that day, but given what I heard subjectively, and that the Ether open sounded more "right" and "hi-fi" even when ignoring the better response, I'm going to assume the Ether C has well behaved BUT relatively high distortion. Higher than you should expect for the price, not the best I've seen from a closed headphone, getting close to 1% across the board, etc. There are a few different ways you can look at it. (Again, all this goes out the window if this was just noise background for the day.) Still, I'm going to be stubborn, plug my ears, and insist it's a sign the Ether C is not exactly in the high end sphere due to distortion alone. I suppose it is less unpleasant than rough, spiky distortion characteristics (see Alpha Prime).

    Moving on, at first glance, the frequency response measurements look pretty good. And, indeed, the overall curve is pretty solid. I remember the Ether C sounding surprisingly lean and somewhat uneven. On closer inspection, maybe these measurements hold some clues:

    Green dashed line shows a bit of a rising response from bass to 1KHz. It's possible this means nothing, but it could help explain the somewhat lean character I heard. Hard to tell with the channel balance. The red line might indicate just a bit of bass boost and a bit of 1KHz bump, nothing major. The blue line exhibits more of than downward, lean trend. Then again, the Ether open shows some lean characteristics on Tyll measurements, and I heard it as such...but the pair I auditioned at home actually sounded relatively full and measured as such. That immediately makes this all guesswork with high probability for error.

    The yellow dashed circle shows some unevenness. I know some aren't bothered by this (see FA-003, HM5, etc. as a severe example), but sudden unevenness and dips in the midrange seem to make things sound weird when I listen in ways that are sometimes hard to describe or place a finger on.

    The blue and purple dashed show that there might be some treble peaks or slight elevation. This stuff is always really hard to tell with Tyll's measurements. Overall, though, the response above 1KHz looks pretty damn solid, I'll give it that.

    EtherCFRNoted.jpg
    Took the HD650's response (mustard and light blue), matched to 1KHz-ish, and overlayed it. No surprise, HD650 has more of that mid-bass hump, but is smoother and better integrated throughout. It's almost like the Ether C is doing the opposite of the HD650 from 10Hz-1KHz. One is U-shaped in that region, the other flips it upside down. The response above that is nicely matched. It's possible the Ether C might have more peakiness and elevation around 7KHz (I would not be surprised), and maybe, just maybe, the 9-10KHz area might be a bit hotter (not much of an issue).

    EtherCFR650.jpg


    Again, this is all just guesswork. Ultimately I'll need to hear a new Ether C at home to judge it for myself. Maybe it will redeem itself from RMAF, and maybe not. I just find guesswork like the above fun but think it should be taken with a grain of salt.
     
  17. TMoney

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    In on the loaner for sure! Hope the cable is 4 pin Xlr
     
  18. paras1te

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    A noob question, likely: Is the driver used in ETHER the same as that used by Fostex (any Fostex model)?
    I'm gonna assume that MrSpeakers' "patented" V Planar technology came after Clark's Fostex mods.
     
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  19. philipmorgan

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    From https://mrspeakers.com/ether/:

    "ETHER is built around MrSpeakers designed single-ended planar driver. To optimize performance the planar has been processed using our patent-pending V-Planar technology."
     
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    Noob question... can any of you that have heard both EC V1.1 & the Alpha Dog comment on how the bass compares between the two? It seems to me that the EC's bass is the one less impressive aspect of an otherwise great headphone.

    Tyll's review has me questioning my upgrade path. I had started to think about getting an HD650 to compliment my AD's but given that I have a home theatre room I'm happy with, chances are an open headphone may not give me much extra utility as just selling my AD's and picking up the EC V1.1.
     

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