Schiit Ragnarok 2

For some reason I thought he mentioned a Chord Hugo,, but can’t seem to find that in the post anymore… or was that in his signature that’s gone now?

Whoopseee he just posted that above

 

Hi.
With which speakers are Ragnarok 2 have better synergy?Looking only for bookshelfs.

 

So I bought the Rag 2 and paired it with a BF 2/64. I have Triangle Comete 40th anniversary. I find them lacking bass for the first time when I got the Rag 2. I had a Quad Vena 2 and a SMSL AO200 (which I used with the Bifrost 2/64) These had a lot more low end, but are not as good in any other way to the Rag 2. I wouldn't even say it's quality low end with those amps, especially the SMSL as it was using their sdb bass bost.
I guess I would look for something with more bass then my Triangles is the best thing I could say. I will try integrating a sub at some point. I tried my Elac Carina and it was a nicer match.
I also have a Bifrost 2 OG module ordered to see if that makes any difference.

 

Thank you lerrens you have tapped into my poor impulse control on this.

I have had my Rag 2 for a day now. I don’t want to go into too much detail until I live with it for a while….and make sure I am not being too biased by new toy syndrome alone. However I do want to get some initial impressions out of the way now while my memory is fresh because it is the third amp in the same system this week and it is only Thursday.

I am streaming from an Eversolo DMP-A6 into a Yggdrasil LIM and my speakers are Mission 700s. I am also running a Golden Ear Forcefield 3 sub. I have not tried the headphone side yet and just want to compare amps. So it will be the Rag vs a Kara feeding either a Pioneer M22 or Vidar. My room is not large at only 256 square feet which is why I can get away with running the Pioneer with these speakers. I also want to mention that I have used the Pioneer with more efficient speakers in the past and it did, of course, handle them better than in my current room. The problem is high efficiency speakers tend to be larger and my room is small.

Getting to point here. I have heard that the Rag lacks a bit of quantity on low bass but that the quality is still there. With my speakers I will say that it sounds just about perfect at normal listening volume but does lack a bit when turned down. Now the lower octaves do that on all systems which is one reason we used to have loudness switches. This happens with the other two amps as well but they both have more bass so it doesn’t stand out as much. To be fair both other amps are also being influenced by the Kara and if I were not lazy I would compare both other amps using the Rags pre out. I have no interest in running it this way so did not try.

Mid bass is not lacking at all even at low volumes. From the midpoint up there is simply much more. I don’t know if you would call it forward or plankton or just flat out more detailed. It reminds me of a tube amp here or maybe the first time I heard HD800s after living with HD650 and OG LCD 2 for a long time. Separation and soundstage follow suit. It is not bright or fatiguing but very smooth. Bass aside, it is far more enjoyable to listen to at low volume in my system. I might throw the Lokius in there for low volume listening just for the sub bass.

So far I think this is an utterly remarkable sounding amp. I just wouldn’t want to pair it with bright sounding speakers.

 

Must resist, even though my JBL 4312G yearns for this..

 

I also find the Ragnarok 2 sound leaner compared to my Audiolabs 6000A, lacking a bit of sub bass quantity when listening to LS50 alone, but since I'm using LS50 with KC62, it's not too much of a drawback for me, and mids up it's a definite upgrade.
Glad you like it and find it preferable over Vidar and M22, hope to hear more about your impressions on the headphone side!

I'm still stunned by how the HD650 scaled, especially after I've borrowed a pair of HD660S2 and tested both with Rag2. The 660S2 did not scale that much, which makes the HD650 jumped up a solid tier above HD660S2 and it's crazy. I won't believe it if not hearing it first hand.

 

With which version of speakers Ragno 2 will be better?Looking between LS50 or LS50 meta.Dac - Yggi OG A1

 

If you don’t want in your face upper mids, get the meta.

 

Superb sound quality with chain Yggi->Ragno 2 ->LS50
But with turntable ->Nagaoka MP500->Skoll-> Ragno 2 - Sounds very soft and like LS50 underpowered.

 

Check your Skoll setting perhaps?

 

setted on 70db

 

Yeah that is strange. The gain on my phono stage is a little low, running a Fosgate Signature Tube Phono currently, so I expected to have to turn the volume or gain up vs the Yggdrasil. And I think there is less gain being single ended unless Nexus is supposed to affect that? Not sure. But in your case the Skoll is balanced and you said it is set to 70db so you would think it wouldn’t matter

 

You can ask Schiit about it

 

Noticed,that with chain Yggi->Ragno 2 ->LS50 - speakers sounds more transparent.
But with Nagaoka MP500->Skoll-> Ragno 2 - Sounds less transparent,and most peak on frequency 250-400hz - which I dont like.I'll think about buying EQ.But anybody faced with same issue?

 

I want a 2nd Rag for the office. I really love its authority and grace. Very nimble and capable name.

 

Some of us are trying (very hard) not to buy it. Just so you know.

 

If that is so, methinks you've come to the wrong place.