Shaffer had a meltdown (formerly Shaffer Mad at Marv)

Discussion in 'How to Win Friends and Influence People' started by Shaffer, Feb 17, 2016.

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What should the new sub-forum for this kind of content be named?

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  1. takato14

    takato14 God of Ruin

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    Maybe he should have, you know, not treated good people like shit for no reason. You think he should just get off the hook? He's a grown f'ing man, he should know better. He brought this upon himself.

    If you never have to experience the consequences for your mistakes, how are you supposed to learn from them and become a better person?
     
  2. Kunlun

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    I think this was actually a response to Chafer finding and posting a picture of Marv as part of a supremely poor attempt to intimidate Marv.

    I'm pretty sure that IS Marv's place.

    Also, the idea that being a superdick to someone outside of one's religious or community should have no consequences is basically the root cause of everything that has ever been bad in human history. Maybe his rabbi can help chafer be less of a superdick.

    That would be the greatest mitzvah of all--circumcising a superdick, a personality bris.

    I don't know, there's probably a kabbalistic term for it (tikkun douche?)


    A final thought: If this dude is this much a schmuck that he gets banned for gross douchiness on online forum after online forum, then I think it's pretty likely that everyone who knows him knows he's a schmuck.

    Edit: I get that you are coming from a good place and I want to validate that you are a mensch, even if I'm disagreeing a bit.
     
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  3. JewBear

    JewBear Almost "Made"

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    I'm not saying he should get off the hook, but typically punishments have an expiration date where you do your penance and move on. When you make a fool of yourself to people you know, they eventually let it go. With the internet, he'll be permanently judged for the transgression, it will never expire.
     
  4. purr1n

    purr1n Desire for betterer is endless.

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    Nope, definitely not cool. However, I didn't do this without some thought, but it sure seemed effective in shutting him up. (The ban was put in place several hours later). The information posted was 100% public. I didn't post any non-public personally identifiable information such as phone numbers, social security numbers, credit scores, account numbers, exact date of birth, mother's maiden name, wife's name, kids' names, photos of his family, etc. Just making a statement to him that digging up information, photos, and going "weird" can go both ways.

    Seriously, I'm not going to do that. That's kind of lame. Just an empty threat.
     
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  5. JewBear

    JewBear Almost "Made"

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    Judaism has an entire holiday (the holiest of the year) devoted to forgiveness and atonement. If Shaffer is Jewish he'll be judging himself if he has not repented when Yom Kippur comes around. His transgressions will weigh heavy on his soul. BUT, there is always the ability for one to cast off their past misdeeds, and start the new year fresh. So let him have that opportunity, holding a grudge hurts you just as much as him.
     
  6. OJneg

    OJneg The Most Insufferable

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    Holy shit this thread. WTF.

    I think we need authorization for Dick Mode
     
  7. Griffon

    Griffon 2nd biggest asshole on SBAF

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    Getting mad and seeking vegence on internet is already stupid enough. The ban being in the place, I don't think there is any need to continue the drama.
     
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    Well, that's fair. If he asks for forgiveness, then that's bread on the water
     
  9. purr1n

    purr1n Desire for betterer is endless.

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    Fair point. I'll kill the information in a few days.
     
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    I second the notion for Dick Mode Authrorization.
     
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    Nah, looks like the just wrath of the SuperFriends is cooling. Jewbear mensched the thread.
     
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    Krkrkrkrkrkrkr

    Just as long as it's attached to a an overweight furry dragon, right?
     
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    lm4der A very good sport - Friend

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    +1 on @JewBear's menchness.

    Also: this may be a bit off topic, but has anyone else noticed those nutri-system tv commercials featuring Marie Osmond? I mean dang. Just sayin'. Carry on.
     
  14. purr1n

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    Here's the deal. Had Felix come in here and posted about how angry and hurt he was about how he was treated, I would have listened and apologized. I think we all would have. I know we are not all saints. I know as part of our style, we will piss a few people off. In the end, Felix was just not a good fit here. We've seen this before on Changstar. Someone comes in, and he believes he has much to teach, but is then appalled and angry when people mock him. We can be a tough group sometimes.

    The fact is, I feel sad about this situation. I pity the Felix. I honestly wish I had done something different or been more polite in explaining what the expectations were for a very active poster (Felix was quite active). The problem is the nature of existence. It's absolutely impossible to not be an asshole to someone, some animal, or some thing. As the great Paul Newman once said, “A man with no enemies is a man with no character.” Even today, Felix was still insisting that he had much to teach "The staff knows less about audio than my dog. Even more so, as you refuse to learn. Idiots."* without realizing that no one here particularly wanted to learn from him. This is an obvious disconnect here that cannot be resolved, so the best solution is for him to part ways from us - peacefully. And if necessary, for me to force his departure by whatever unconventional means at my disposal.

    Sure I didn't need to hang Felix out to dry, but going back to his posts, he definitely bought a ticket to "Marv is going to get kinda scary on you" mode. I actually held back, otherwise I would have posted snippets of non-public personal information too.

    *The ironic part of all this is that the best teachers are those who really don't want to teach and never say "you refuse to learn".
     
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    takato14 God of Ruin

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    holy f**k

    #rekt
     
  16. purr1n

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    There was consideration for deleting this thread, but the council of elders decided against it for the following reasons:
    1. Felix would cite such an action as abuse of administrative powers on part of the staff.
    2. Felix's asshatery should be documented on the Internet so long as SuperBAF remains online. These kinds of records could prove beneficial for administrators of forums or other social media sites in the future should they need to deal with his behavior.
    3. In the tradition of Changstar, we don't like to censor using the Currawong carpetbomb method. I like the records as intact as possible for better or worse. Whether they are good reflections of us or poor (and again, we can be downright mean at times), I want them to be out there. It's honest and who we are. No glossing over of imperfections or fake appearance of utopia here.
     
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    Ok this was a weird thread.
     
  18. purr1n

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    FYI, the last time Dick Mode came into effect was because of this same dude. Just saying. If there is anything I've learned, it only takes one person to screw up a forum.

    At Jexby's request for your entertainment:

    Banned Users - "Reasons" Field
    1. Steve Eddy: Too many reports. Tends to stir up shit.
    2. proflitoto: Consistent low-temp trolling, thread-crapping, no one incident, but over time. Too many reports.
    3. Shaffer: Very angry former fanboy.
    Judeus was only temporarily banned.
     
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    Also MoatsArt should have been labelled honorably discharged.
     
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    Nathan / MoatsArt was recently deemed safe to return to society.
     
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