Yeah, yeah, yeah, there is some baggage with this, discussed in another thread. I've said it before: we need to acknowledge the dumbassery (including against SBAF members) yet at the same time admit that this dude makes good stuff. TBH, I don't want to hear apologists making excuses for bad behavior; but at the same time, people deserve second chances. He's still on thin ice and I won't hold anything against people for not wanting to support Verum. Igor asked if I wanted to check out the the Verum 2 a while back and I answered, sure why not. The design is kind of blingy, at least this particular unit. It's a departure from the DeLaurentis version of Dune styled Verum 1. The Verum 2 with its ornamentation reminds me a bit of the St. Michael's Golden Domed Monastery in Kyiv. I took a quick listen of the Verum 2 from my bedroom setup (ET3->MILF DAC->MJ3) and I thought: damn this is good! Included with the headphone was two sets of pads. One set was very slightly thinner and pleather all around with a vent. The other one was slightly thicker but thinner things, a velvet felt face, and pleather on the sides, and no vent. I think the first one with the vent was flatter but with a maybe a slight rise in the highs. I decided to do with the second set of pads without the vent, which sounded mid-centric to me. There's definitely a small bump in the mids, but otherwise I found the tonal signature quite flat and eerily similar to the ETA Mini C. Generally I would say that setups that synergized with the Mini C seemed to work well with the Verum 2. I preferred darker sounding DAC/amps. In other respects, the Verum 2 sounds like a more mature version of the Verum 1. Things are tighter (as opposed to loose) with snappier transients and focused delivery. The possible downside is that the presentation is a bit drier. The Verum 2 also scales much better with better gear. (It was a let down coming from the MILF/MJ3 to the MMB1/Piety). Another thing I should mention is that while there was decent bass extension, the Verum 2 differs from well-known orthos such as Audezes in that it doesn't quite have that monster bass heft. Heck, the Verum 2 doesn't slam like the HFM HEKs either, but on the other hand, the lows are very controlled and do not exhibit the bouncy-bounce bass of the HEKs. I just wanted to expectations properly. The bottom line from a night of listening is that I found myself lost into the music, and that I could care less about describing it's sound or paying attention to technical aspects. I will return with frequency response measurements tomorrow.