[WTB] Telefunken E88CC

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  1. Walderstorn

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    As the title says i am looking for a E88CC. I have been refraining from doing this topic but the prices from the usual places are a bit on the steep side even for used tubes.

    I am located in Europe, in case that makes a difference.


    Thanks for helping.
     
  2. sacredgates

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    I still have a NOS Telefunken Cca, but these are even more rare/expensive as the E88cc type...
     
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    Thanks mate but i can imagine being way out of my budget. I am saving for a Bifrost 2 so i can't go crazy but i am thankful.
     
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    I use an E88CC with my MCTH. But I'm hardly listening to it at all after getting SW51+. A while back my original tube developed some noise issues. I also tried to find one here, but ended up buying one on eBay for around 100 euro.
    https://www.superbestaudiofriends.o...alli-tube-hybrid-amp.4866/page-42#post-214007

    IIRC the noise from the original tube wasn't as bad when I tried it later. I can check it again when I get home if you're interested.
     
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    Thanks mate but my previous tube also had a bit of a ringing to it and I would really like a noise-free one this time.

    I am very thankful for the offer.

    Cheers
     
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    Please be aware that there are reissue Tel E88CC tubes out there. I found a pair on B&H Photo website. I don't think you will find a real NOS Telfunken E88CC for less than $200 each. I might sell you one for $200 because you are a Friend on this forum, but shipping and customs to Europe is too much trouble.
     
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    I have plenty of ecc88 here. Most of them Phillips SQ. Do you need only Telefunken?
     
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    $90 for a pair is a bargain, if they're authentic. You probably already know, but check that the diamond on the bottom is convex rather than concave (the latter indicating it was faked by laser etching).
    https://jacmusic.com/nos/images/Fakes/index.htm

    Edit (re below): Ah ... that's why they're so cheap.
     
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    Gents above have mentioned ecc88, whereas you've stated you're after e88cc - but I'll play devil's advocate and suggest that though I've never heard the latter, there might be enough of a family resemblance to make it worth a crack on the former (way cheaper) from a reputable European seller.

    Been real happy with Tele ecc88 in my MCTH.
     
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    Do you know any @Biodegraded?

    That would indeed become very expensive and i cannot afford as much right now but i thank you.

    I never tried Philips, i think. Only E88cc Telefunken, Siemens (which i use now) and several ECC88 Russian ones. So i have no idea how good they are :)
     
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    As you can see from this thread getting good NOS tubes is not an easy affair. I spent way to many hours getting some basic knowledge and get a feel for the NOS tube market with its many pitfalls (fakes, importance of the year of production and factory, rebranded items, compatible types and so on).

    May I suggest you also take a look at the E188CC type?
    A lot of people don´t know these can be used instead of E88CC; they have better longevity and there are some excellent sounding types around starting from about 50 € and really good ones can be already had for around 125 €.
    I got my headphone amp, which is really picky (Trafomatic Head 2), finally quiet with two NOS Siemens E188CC gold pins. Soundwise they are there with the top.

    Don´t narrow your search to Telefunken. Siemens and Lorenz sound often similar. The english tubes often are a bit warmer and smoother sounding. Dutch ones are halfway in between (Philips SQ, Miniwatt,...). Of course this is an extreme generalization; but a possible starting point.
    Older Teslas may be worth a look into too, but for the E88CC family of tubes they are a bit less interesting, except when you are on a low budget.

    Buying on ebay is like a bad lottery if you don´t know exactly what´s up.

    Philips SQ often are very good and worth a serious consideration if you have a good source. Possibly you trade a tiny bit of resolution and holographic qualities for a bit more euphony/musicality compared to prime Telefunken and Siemens tubes.
     
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    If you live in NL you can test some tubes at my place and test a few. I have some in stock but hardly use them.

    Given you are a friend we can go 50 Euros a pair of tubes if they meet your standards.
     
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    Maybe @drgumbybrain can help with those Philips. Depending if its Fortaleza South America or Europe :)
    My Siemens works well but i will, as you advise consider the Philips SQ as well.

    Thanks!


    Hey Deep. Thanks for the attention but i live in Sweden. Really thankful for the offer though.
     
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    I have a spare Tung Sol 6C8G and metal adapter I used with the MCTH for awhile. @Phantaminum recommended it and happy I went that route. You'd need a spacer as well.

    I'll put up an ad if that's of interest for you.
     
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    The tube resides inside the amp which is very tight in space so unfortunately your (very) generous offer won't work for me.

    I am really thankful mate.
     
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    @Walderstorn my I'm currently out of town and away from my records; I'll get back to you after the weekend if you're still looking.
     
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    Back home now. My Telefunken came from a seller in Ontario. From Europe I had a good experience with ebay seller filamentum (Belgium), but he doesn't look to have a Tele ECC88 or variant currently. I presume you know you have to watch that some tubes branded Telefunken might actually be made by somebody else - this one is actually a Siemens (the Siemens & Halske Munich factory code =I= is visible in some of the photos).
     
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    Thanks to some good people i am going to receive a few tubes, some for test and some for decisions. Should arrive during this week but i will keep the thread open until i actually got something.
     
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    Like stated, thanks to some amazing online people i found what i wanted and more.

    An old Telefunken e88cc and the Phillips SQ are indeed amazing.
    Also got 2 Russian 6N23P Reflector tubes that, although exciting and giving more punch, messed the highs a bit. More exciting but less musical and i prefer the latter.

    For last i got a fake Telefunken e88c that i have yet to test.

    I can't help but be super thankful for the suggestions.


    Mods can close it and thanks
     
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