actually no @Griffon the Sansui keeps pace in everything but the absolute lowest level information I can discern -- very small things like spatial cues. honestly, could just be the senns having an actually good soundstage. the sansui also remains more neutral.
I am also still using a geek out 450 so, large grain of salt please
Once I heard the layering and separation the HD800 is capable of (off of modest to TOTL gear), I simply can't 'unhear' it.. and it's become the 'benchmark' for me with full sized phones and IEMs. Still chasing that dragon.. damn you HD800!
the HE-6 just isn't as clean, and no amp will change that
there's also this nasty treble coloration on the HE-6 that makes them sound simultaneously distant and hissy that's not present on the senns, but that could change with amplification so grain of salt
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