Comments on Profile Post by Hrodulf

  1. Poleepkwa
    Poleepkwa
    Most people who owns 18" probably not scared to turn it up.
    Jun 29, 2023
  2. Priidik
    Priidik
    Forget 18''. No one would be fooled even at that low level playing some well recorded double bass between an 8'' and a 12'', both given optimal conditions.
    Bigger woofers have meat, air and flow of energy that the smaller ones just lack.
    Jun 29, 2023
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  3. wbass
    wbass
    I had a pair of dual-opposed 15" subs in my last apartment. They could rattle the glasses in the cabinets of the apt. across the hall. At half gain.
    Jun 29, 2023
  4. Riotvan
    Riotvan
    I use two 10" subs in nearfield and i want moar.
    Jun 29, 2023
  5. E_Schaaf
    E_Schaaf
    Surely the cabinet design is a big contributor here too
    Jun 29, 2023
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  6. Claritas
    Claritas
    Two questions for y'all: Do you feel the way about headphones? Does your desire for dynamics depend on the genre of music? Gratias.
    Jun 29, 2023
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  7. M3NTAL
    M3NTAL
    I am not in this statistic. Maybe take a poll on here. "Does a properly amplified system with big ass woofers move air?" Hopefully the physics nerds here can give you a great answer to these "lot of complainers"
    Jun 29, 2023
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  8. internethandle
    internethandle
    I’m inclined to agree, even with HP’s. After years of believing HiFi was partially about satisfaction/“resolution” at lower volumes, I find myself cranking it more these days. My old beliefs about shoutiness or fuzziness at high volumes don’t seem to apply now. Also dealing with aging ears here, though.
    Jun 29, 2023
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  9. Priidik
    Priidik
    Nerd physics wise the mechanism has been described to death everywhere; and still some people are not sold. You d-o n-o-t want your drivers visually physically move - when the do, there are dozen mechanisms producing distortion at significant levels. There are heroic attempts, like Purifi. The do punch above their weight, but a heroic 6'' woofer is still inferior to 'good' 10'' woofer for bass.
    Jun 30, 2023
  10. Priidik
    Priidik
    Lame car analogy to follow: You have a track car without limitations. Would you rather have a 1.6 L R4 engine boosted to squeeze it's tits off at 400 kW, or would you rather have a 5 L flatplane V8 outputting the same number?
    Jun 30, 2023
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  11. Hrodulf
    Hrodulf
    @Priidik I think Purifi did a good job explaining that at high excursion you get less effective piston area due to surround flex.
    Jun 30, 2023
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  12. Priidik
    Priidik
    That is one thing. Then there are the spring (compliance) factors of surround and spider. Compliance is only neglected to be linear - it really is not. Then there are excursion dependant mechanical losses. We haven't even touched on motor stuff. A dynamic driver really is as complex as a woman. Purifi has nailed all of these drawbacks to a great extent; and it shows both listening and measuring.
    Jun 30, 2023
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