Audeze LCD2C Measurements and Impressions

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  1. pelagius

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    I got a pair of LCD 2C a couple of weeks ago, but unfortunately, I don't think they're for me. I may just have HD600-ear, but coming from those headphones, I just feel like there is some information missing in the LCD 2C, especially in the upper mids and spatial presentation. At the same time, there was a bit too much treble for my tastes and setup. I can see why people enjoy them, however. The characteristic Audeze bass quality did not disappoint, and they were quite punchy.

    I tried both the Audeze pads and Dekoni elite velour pads. I noticed the same increase in upper mids and slight decrease in subbass that others did, but neither set of pads quite did it for me. I also found the vacuum seal of the stock pads to be pretty uncomfortable. The cushion of both pads and the suspension headband were reasonably comfortable, however.

    In any case, these will be going back to Audeze. Hopefully I don't eat too much of the refund for swapping the pads. They're nice, but not for me. My itch for planar bass in an open headphone will continue to go unscratched for now. Maybe I should try an AFO.
     
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    That's basically how I feel about LCD2C as well. I have had it since the first month it released and I only find it ok. It is stellar at bass texture, extension, and speed. But it falls short in upper mids and timbre. I am much more of a Sennheiser/ZMF person. If you are like me, you might also not care for AFO. It is warmer than your HD600, even warmer than LCD2C because it has a little mid bass hump. If you are set on planars, keep your eye out for Verum One. I am in the campaign waiting on mine. I joined based on all the impressions that it doesn't have the compression issues of LCD2C and should have a more even sound signature overall.
     
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    What about hifiman? The brand has its problems, but they seem to be the only ones making planars with any energy on the high end.
     
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    I enjoy my 560's but they are nowhere near as resolving or tonally correct as the 6XXs. Coming from the 6 series you'll need to aim high IMO especially if low level detail is important, which it seems to pegalius it is.
     
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    There isn’t an upgrade from the HD600, only sidegrades. Include me in the group that would love to buy a headphone with the detail and tone of an HD600 and the bass of an Audeze.
     
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    To answer your previous question, I am not huge on Hifiman, mostly because of QC issues, weird pricing, nonsensical branching of products, silent revisions,, etc. I do enjoy the sound though of a few like HE-500, HE-Xv2, Sundara, and I haven't heard HE-6 yet but I imagine I would really like it. Still, while I like them I haven't absolutely loved them enough to pursue them.

    And regarding HD600, have you heard Auteur yet? Since you are in Chicago I'm guessing you have? I think that headphone is a worthy upgrade from HD600.
     
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    Did the Dekoni velour pads fix the vacuum issue?
     
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    The Dekoni Velour pads fixed the vacuum for me.
     
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    I've heard it in show conditions, maybe I should give it a closer look :)
     
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    Wow thanks, I didn't even know about the Verum One. It looks pretty promising and like it might be what I'm looking for in a planar.

    Would you say that the AFO's increased warmness also results in reduced clarity/transparency? I think I actually prefer more bass, less treble, and a bit less upper mids than the stock HD600, but if the AFO is equally or less transparent, then yeah, I doubt I would like it. I thought that I might prefer it because I read that it is less recessed in the upper mids.

    Also, it's funny that you mention ZMF. I've actually been wondering if I got a dynamic with better bass extension and quality, if my itch for a planar would go away. I've been eyeing Aeolus, Auteur, or maybe Verité in particular.
     
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    Yes, they did.
     
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    I did consider HiFiMan when I was doing the research that led me to the LCD2C, but to be completely honest, I've forgotten what led me away from the HE-500. The other HiFiMan headphones either were more than I wanted to spend or were reputed to have a tonality that I didn't think would suit me. I'll probably consider the HE-500 in further research, along with the Verum One.
     
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    That's a fairly good description of the HD650 actually. The only real think missing for me with my modded HD650 is a bit more sub bass.

    I don't have a ton of experience with the AFO, but IIRC it has a similar depression in the upper mids, just a few KHZ up, and the FR does rise around 10K whereas the 2C doesn't.

    If you could swing a ZMF, they're more linear throughout the frequency I think overall. Dips and peaks are of course there, but less severe. I'd definitely demo if at all possible...good luck.
     

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