Dayton IMM-06 measurements of 325 IEMs

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  1. La Cenric

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    Setup: Dayton IMM-06 with makeshift vinyl tube coupler, "FFT Plot" app on iOS

    With this portable measuring rig, I was able to run around the country to take measurements off demo units. Will be updating this post and the imgur album as I get more and more opportunities to do so in the near future. Due to the nature of this setup, I will only be measuring IEMs.

    Disclaimer: my measurements are not meant to be totally accurate or conformed to any standard. Do look at my Etymotic measurements as a frame of reference instead.

    Every unit will undergo a right channel preliminary check at a 5-second averaged curve. The IEM tip will be forced into the tubing with as much of the bores exposed as possible, with the distance from mic to tip set at 12mm for standard inserts, 14mm for shallow inserts and 10mm for deep inserts.
    Left channel will then be checked. If the two curves are 90% similar (by observation), proper measurement will commence on the right channel.

    Measurements are done on the "FFT Plot" app with the following settings:


    1. Periodic White Noise file (.mp3)
    2. 16384 data points
    3. HAMM window
    4. 60 second average under "Infinite"
    5. Mixed graph
    6. Decade scale

    If inconsistencies are detected, measurements will be repeated on either the left or right channel (depending on situation I.E. channel imbalance), until a curve can be properly reproduced.

    Those in red have been graciously provided by Head-Fi'er nmatheis.
    Those in green have been graciously provided by @malvinvnv .

    [hr][/hr] In alphabetical order:

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    1More E1001 "Triple Driver"
    1More Quad Driver
    64 Audio A2
    64 Audio A3
    64 Audio A4
    64 Audio U4-SE
    64 Audio A5
    64 Audio A6
    64 Audio A8
    64 Audio A10
    64 Audio U18Tzar
    64 Audio Tia Fourte
    A&K T8iE Mk2
    AAW A1D
    AAW A2H-Pro
    AAW A2H-Pro V2
    AAW A3H-Pro (custom)
    AAW A3H-Pro V2
    AAW M40
    AAW Nebula One
    AAW Nebula Two
    AAW Q
    AAW W100
    AAW W300
    AAW W350
    Acoustune HS1501
    Acoustune HS1551
    ACS Encore
    ACS Evoke
    ACS Evolve
    Advanced M3 (wired)
    Advanced M4
    Advanced Evo X
    A-Jays 3
    Alpha & Delta AD01
    Alpha & Delta D2
    Audeze iSine 10
    Audeze iSine 20
    Audio Technica ATH-CK90Pro
    Audio Technica ATH-CKB50
    Audio Technica ATH-CKM99
    Audio Technica ATH-CKR10
    Audio Technica ATH-CKR70
    Audio Technica ATH-CKR100
    Audio Technica ATH-CKS1100iS
    Audio Technica ATH-E40
    Audio Technica ATH-E50
    Audio Technica ATH-E70
    Audio Technica ATH-IM01
    Audio Technica ATH-IM02
    Audio Technica ATH-IM70
    Audio Technica ATH-LS200
    Audio Technica ATH-LS300
    Audio Technica ATH-LS400
    Audio Technica ATH-LS50
    Audio Technica ATH-LS70
    Audiofly AF160
    Avara AV1
    Avara AV2
    Avara AV3

    Beyerdynamic Xelento
    Bragi Dash
    Brainwavz B100
    Brainwavz B200
    Brainwavz M100

    Campfire Andromeda
    Campfire Dorado
    Campfire Jupiter
    Campfire Lyra II
    Campfire Nova
    Campfire Orion
    Campfire Polaris
    Campfire Vega
    Canal Works CW-L33BB
    Canal Works CW-L05QD2
    Cardas A8
    Cardas EM5813
    Clear Tune Monitors CT-100
    Clear Tune Monitors CT-200
    Clear Tune Monitors CT-300 Pro
    Clear Tune Monitors CT-400P
    Clear Tune Monitors CT-500E
    Clear Tune Monitors CT6-E
    Cosmic Ears CE6P
    Custom Art Ei.3
    Custom Art Ei.XX (Alternative)
    Custom Art Music One
    Custom Art Music Two
    Custom Art Pro330v2
    Dita Audio "The Answer"
    Dita Audio "The Truth"
    Dita Audio "The Truth" Gold
    Dita Audio Brass
    Dita Audio Dream
    Dunu DK-3001
    Earsonics SM3
    Earsonics SM64v2
    Earsonics S-EM6
    EarWerkz Supra (custom)
    Empire Ears Arthur
    Empire Ears Merlin
    Eternal Melody EM-2
    Eternal Melody EM-5
    Eternal Melody EM-5H
    Etymotic ER4PT
    Etymotic ER4XR
    Fender DXA1
    Fender FXA2
    Fender FXA5
    Fender FXA6
    Fender FXA7
    Fidue A91 "Sirius"
    FiiO F3
    FiiO F9
    Final Audio Adagio III
    Final Audio Design E2000
    Final Audio Design E3000
    Final Audio Design F7200
    Final Audio Design FI-BA-SS
    Final Audio Design Heaven VII
    Final Audio Design Heaven VIII
    Final Audio Design LAB I
    Final Audio Design LAB II
    FitEar Aya
    FitEar F111
    FitEar Fitear
    FitEar Melomane
    FitEar MH335
    FitEar MH335SR
    FitEar Monet 17
    FitEar Parterre
    FitEar Private 222
    FitEar Private 223
    FitEar Private 333
    FitEar To Go! 334 (TG334)
    FLC Technology FLC8S (default filters)
    Focal Sphear
    Fostex TE100
    Grado GR10e
    Heygears Anora
    Hidition NTRM
    Hidition NT6
    Hidition NT6 Pro
    Hidition Viento-Reference (default)
    Hifiman RE1000
    iBasso IT03 (Alternative)
    Ice Lab EX02
    Ice Lab EX03
    Ice Lab EX05
    Ice Lab EX06
    InEar Stagediver 2 SD-2
    InEar Stagediver 3 SD-3
    InEar Stagediver 4 SD-4
    InEarz Nirvana
    Intime Sora
    JH Audio JH3X
    JH Audio JH10X
    JH Audio JH11
    JH x A&K Michelle
    Jomo Audio Jomo2
    Jomo Audio Jomo3
    Jomo Audio Jomo4v2
    Jomo Audio Jomo5v2
    Jomo Audio Jomo6v2
    Jomo Audio Jomo6R (Alternative)
    Jomo PLB
    JVC HA-FW01
    JVC HA-FW02
    Klipsch R6i
    Kumitate KL-Lakh
    KZ ZS3
    KZ ZS5
    KZ ZST
    Lear LCM-4
    Lear LCM-5
    Lime Ears LE2
    Mass Kobo BCE-1B
    MEE Audio Pinnacle P1
    Noble Audio Django
    Noble Audio Dulce Bass
    Noble Audio K10
    Noble Audio K10 Encore
    Noble Audio Katana
    Noble Audio Savanna
    Noble Audio Savant
    Noble Audio Trident
    NocturnaL Gorham
    NocturnaL Atlantis
    Nuforce HEM4
    Nuforce HEM6
    Ocharaku Flat-4 KAEDE
    Ocharaku Flat-4 KAEDE Type II
    Ocharaku Flat-4 AKAZAKURA Plus
    Ocharaku Flat-4 AKAKEYAKI
    Ocharaku Flat-4 Ti Plus
    Ocharaku Flat 4 Nami
    Ocharaku Donguri-Keyaki
    Ocharaku Donguri Ti Plus
    Onkyo E900
    Oriolus Forsteni
    Oriolus MK2
    Oriveti Basic
    Oriveti New Primacy
    Pai Audio MR2
    Pai Audio MR3
    Philips SHE3595
    QDC 3SH
    QDC 5CH
    QDC 8SH
    Radius HP-HHR11R
    RHA T20i
    Rhapsodio Clipper
    Rhapsodio Earth
    Rhapsodio Galaxy V1
    Rhapsodio RTi1
    Rhapsodio Solar
    Rhines Stage 3
    Rhines Stage 4
    Rhines Stage 5
    Rhines Stage 7
    Sennheiser CX 3.00
    Sennheiser IE800
    Sensaphonics 2MAX
    Sensaphonics 2X-S
    Sensaphonics 3MAX
    Shure KSE1500
    Shure SE535
    Shure SE846
    Simgot EN700
    Sony MDR7550
    Sony XBA-300
    Sony XBA-A3
    Sony XBA-Z5
    Soranik Ion
    Soranik SK1
    Spider Realvoice
    Stax SR-002
    StereoPravda SB7
    TFZ 1S
    TFZ 3S
    TFZ 5S
    TFZ Balance 2M
    TFZ Exclusive 1
    TFZ Exclusive 3
    TFZ Exclusive 5
    TFZ King
    TTPod T2
    Ultimate Ears Reference Monitors (UERM)
    Ultimate Ears Reference Remastered (UERR)
    Ultimate Ears UE4 Pro
    Ultimate Ears UE5 Pro
    Ultimate Ears UE7 Pro
    Ultimate Ears UE11 Pro
    Ultimate Ears UE18 (original)
    Ultimate Ears UE18+ Pro
    Unique Melody Legacy
    Unique Melody MacBeth
    Unique Melody Maestro V2
    Unique Melody Martian
    Unique Melody Merlin V2
    Unique Melody Miracle V2 (Alternative)
    Valore BTS17
    Vision Ears VE8
    VSonic GR07 Bass Edition
    VSonic GR07 Classic
    VSonic GR07X
    VSonic GR09
    VSonic VSD2
    Warbler Prelude
    Westone ES60
    Westone ES50
    Westone ES30
    Westone UM Pro10
    Westone UM Pro20
    Westone UM Pro30
    Westone UM Pro50
    Westone UM1
    Westone W10
    Westone W20
    Westone W30
    Westone W40
    Westone W50
    Westone W60
    Westone W80
    Xiaomi Hybrid
    Yamaha EPH-100
    Zero Audio Carbo Tenore ZH-DX200-CT
    Zero Audio Duoza ZH-DWX10

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    Full imgur album
    @malvinvnv 's full imgur album

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    Special thanks to:
    Zeppelin & Co. headphones cafe
    JABEN Singapore
    Lend Me UR Ears
    Music Sanctuary
    Stereo Singapore
     
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    @La Cenric This is so awesome! The only other real IEM measurement resource is InnerFidelity but their missing quite a few manufactures I was curious about. Nice seeing the 64 Audio IEMs. Thanks!

    It's also interesting seeing the Empire Ears ADEL measurements. I guess I'm not surprised that the modules would affect the frequency response that much. The Spartans actually look better without the modules.
     
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    I much preferred the ADEL sound despite my bassy priorities. The Zeus doesn't exactly have the best bass amongst the summit-fi tier of IEMs so I don't mind getting another reduction, but the increase in separation and clarity were too good to miss.

    I'd classify it as the difference between closed and open headphone (to a much smaller degree of course). A lot of the perceived benefits in fidelity are very similar.
     
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    The Spartans do look really good. Kind of a warm take on reference maybe?
     
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    @La Cenric thanking you again over here and looking forward to your CA measurements as a baseline.
     
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    The rhapsodio galaxy v1 measurements are mislabeled as v2 in the first post ( v2 measurements would be very welcome!)
     
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    Actually @La Cenric are you based in SG or AU? If you're in SG I'm interested to see how the MG6pro measures frequency wise. Never seen a single plot of 'em around. I have a CA Andromeda as well.
     
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    I'll be in SG for the month. Gonna be hard to leave the audio scene behind :(
     
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    The iSine measurements seem to confirm the shitty midrange that I heard with the EQ disabled.
     
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    Been working on a compensation curve for the past day or so. I'm making progress, but still don't have anything truly solid as of now. I'm getting close, so that's rather exciting...

    Etymotic ER4PT for reference

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    First attempt

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    Slight tweaking

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    Adjustments to the upper-treble compensations

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    Failed attempt to smooth

    Here's what I think may serve as the basis for all future tweaking:
    [​IMG]

    And as a fun attempt, my AAW A3H custom (which lines up with the manufacturer's curve rather well now)
    [​IMG][​IMG]

    Due to the nature of my previous measurements (screenshots, raw data was NOT saved unfortunately) I am unable to simply apply any new compensations to them. A re-measure is definitely necessary. sigh...

    Do let me know if I should do anything extra, or if I should continue etc.. Feedback is most welcome.
     
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    Honestly I'd just leave it as is. I quite liked your previous results. Often it's more about learning to correlate the measurements to what we hear instead of perfect accuracy (which can never be achieved).
    They were uncompensated, right? I often find myseöf looking at the uncompensated measurements for IEMs
     
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    Yes they were uncompensated, but the compensations that I'm experimenting right now aren't HTRF or Harman-style but rather to keep my measurements more in line with the more common IEC-standard curves that people like @Marvey or Tyll generates with their rig.

    Currently, I guess measurements can still somewhat hold water due to sheer amount of data that I've collected which allows for a lot of reference points. I'm considering compensation more as a way to make my data easier to interpret, though if you can extrapolate the compensation with your imagination then I assume it's a non-issue.
     
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    Do you know if you're going to measure any of the Nuforce line?
     
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    I know a place with demo units, but it's very out-of-the-way so I don't have any concrete plans to go there yet.

    However, they do have a lot of Hong Kong customs (Lear and Ice Labs) so if I do go there I'll make it a point to measure NuForce stuff as well.
     
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    Sounds good!
     
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    Some of you have been waiting for this update...

    Earsonics SM3
    Earsonics SM64v2
    Earsonics S-EM6
    Campfire Andromeda
    Campfire Vega
    Campfire Dorado
    Campfire Jupiter
    Campfire Lyra II
    Campfire Nova
    Campfire Orion



    Observations:
    • Earsonics measures rather badly. SM64v2 wasn't that bad, but the S-EM6 sounded horrible and disjointed, no sugarcoating it.
    • Andromeda, with all the hype, meets expectations. No surprise there.
    • Prophile-8 is in my top 10 IEMs now. Extremely clean sounding IEM that doesn't stray into coldness, excellent bass and dripping with detail.
     
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    Did you actually audition the Soranik IEMs ? And if you did, what's your impression of them ? Thanks in advance.
     

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