Lyr 3 Discussion Thread

If you wanted MB and gen5 usb, you're stuck with Bifrost Multibit or Eitr+Modi Multibit though.

 

Btw did anybody order lyr3 with mb dac? (or new jot + mb dac)
I also want to hear impressions for that little dac module. Price-wise mb dac module and Modi Multibit are nearly the same AFAIK. Just wondering if dac module has any sonic benefits over Modi Multibit.

 

If you're new though, the LyMBr is enough to get you off your feet and looking at headphones instead to find your own taste and preferences. After that when you want better DACs you can go straight to something like the Gungnir Multibit or maybe RME or even Metrum depending on taste.

 

The problem with being new is wasting money on phones or DACs/amps you grow out of fairly fast if you really get into the hobby and selling at a loss when you move up. If you can avoid that as much as possible you come out ahead. I think you should spend most of your budget on phones that scale well. A pair of HD800S sounds quite good with a Vali 2 and are comfortable for most listeners. In my case I quickly found out there aren't any phones under $1500 I could live with long term.

 

@purr1n or @Hands , any thoughts on the possible synergy between Lyr 3, Gungnir Multibit and the Focal Clear?

Would the Lyr 3 be the weak link in this chain, or do you think it would hold its own?

 

Up early listening to the Lyr 3 and HD600s, there's some exc

I've been listening to Lyr 3 with my Gungnir Multibit all day, it scales with the Gungnir Multibit for sure.

 

I intend to live happily (ever after?) with no headphones that even approach $1500 for what's left of my life, though that may not count as long term.

 

I truly appreciate living on a budget or you may be content with mid-fi phones (count yourself lucky) but if you can't appreciate a $1500 set of phones might be time to have your hearing checked no offense intended.

 

Them’s fightin’ words for the HD650 crowd around here. Careful.

 

Where did he say he can’t appreciate a $1,500 pair of headphones?

And depending on the headphones in question, I might prefer the budget option.

 

Marv, since I already own the Jotunheim, would it make sense to just buy the Saga with the Tung-Sol tube thereby having the Sagaheim as opposed to the Lyr 3 with the same Tung-Sol?

 

Your tone would tend to indicate that in fact the opposite is true.

 

I told myself to sell a pair of HD800S because I had a serious conversation with myself....

"Matt, you're deaf as f**k and don't appreciate these headphones. You should just sell them and get something that is cheaper and also not so bright or incredibly lean in the bass. You poor deaf Mid-Fi bastard."

 

Yeah they offered some stuff in black at one point and it didn't sell, but I think that's a timing and consistency thing more than anything else. Since black runs are basically random and not a guarantee people don't want to wait for the black and/or don't get it because matching with other stuff then become difficult... so while I understand all the reasons why they don't offer black, fi they did it from the beginning and with a lot of products I think that sales would look different. But again that's why we have things like cerakote and durakote...or even krylon. What about warranty though? Would the not honor it if you just popped the top off to paint it?

Plasti Dip sounds like a horrible idea..wouldn't the rubber be in insulator and keep the heat in...I don't think that would be a good idea especially with an amp that already runs hot.

 

My apologies Mea culpa.

 

Got to say the comments above regarding preferring the sound of the Lyr 3 to the MJ2 piqued my interest.

The Lyr 2 got me re-interested in tube amps, and was an in my face upgrade. That sweet organic holographic sound, something my SS gear could never do and I missed from my tube amp days, but ...

The Lyr 2 -> MJ2 upgrade was worth it too. The Lyr 2's darkness and murky nature wasn't in my face until I got the MJ2 (while better than the pure sterile sounding SS amps I had been using) was a nice update.

Now I'm reading the Lyr 3 bests that sound. Damn you Schiit. Do I hold out for a MJ3 or buy the Lyr 3 and bridge that possible gap while I'm waiting for a MJ update?

FWIW, I cannot listen to my MJ2 with LISST. I despise the way it sounds, sterile, repetitive, digital. So Raggy or JOT is not even a consideration.

 

Even if the MB DAC module is identical to Momby, you should consider:

1. Schiit Multibit DACs like Yggdrasil or Gungnir Multibit sonically benefit rather significantly from being left turned on 24/7. I'm not sure if the same could be said for Momby, but if it does too, then while Momby could also be left on all the time, the same thing cannot be said for Lyr 3 (unless you're using LISST, or are willing to sacrifice your 6SN7 tube life).

2. Momby has an coaxial input, whereas Lyr 3's built-in MB DAC is only USB. That would prevent the Lyr 3 from adding an Eitr for Gen 5 USB decrapification, or a soon-to-be released Gadget in front of its chain. At best, you could add a Wyrd, but I cannot say whether it would make a noticeable difference.

Since Lyr 3 is modular upgradable, I hope MB DAC module gets to have its own separate power switch (to keep it burned in 24/7 even when the amp section is off) and a coaxial input in the future. But who knows whether it's actually possible to fit all that in such a small size...

 

I'm actually hoping for a coaxial-only option down the road. At the very least, it might be easier to fit than a usb-and-coaxial module

 

Been listening to the MB card in the Lyr 3. I have a Modi Multibit sitting next to it for comparison. So far, pretty good.

When switching back and forth, the Modi Multibit is louder. I'll assume that's from a full 2V out of the RCA jacks.

They sound the same tonally, but I'm getting wider staging on the Modi Multibit vs MB card. It's noticeable, but not a massive difference. The MB card has only been on for an hour though.