Merv's Politically Incorrect Audio Blog

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  1. yotacowboy

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    I'm honestly not presupposing anything with regards to your views on the morality of hunting versus purchasing ground beef, but since I come from a family of cattle ranchers, i'm interested in what "do the maths" means - I'm not sure I understand.
     
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    The idea that professors would game students’ grades because they went to the protests and all the professors are just as “uber-left” as the students because of broader culture war tribalism just sounds like a right wing caricature of higher education, to me, and not grounded in the reality of what it’s like to teach, as was pointed out in another post.

    Regardless, there’s professors who are a lot further to the center than the protestors, that doesn’t seem particularly controversial to me. There was a Columbia professor complaining about the protests in an op-Ed in the last couple of weeks. There’s another from Berkeley now (rightfully in that case, I think) upset at some of them protesting outside his home. People get more “liberal” vs. uber-left along familiar generational lines in academia in a similar way to how those outside of academia get more conservative with age, generally. Sure, it trends left in upper education versus the general population, but if you’re an “Uber-leftist” tankie student heavily involved in community organizing or whatever, the monied tenured Vote Blue No Matter Who professor on your campus might as well be from another planet.
     
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  3. Armaegis

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    This is pretty much how I see all of y'all's yammerings...

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  4. crazychile

    crazychile Eastern Iowa's Spiciest Pepper

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    I took the quiz knowing where I would likely end up. Even with a few neutral answers I ended up on one of the extremes. The quiz is kinda shite as many questions have all bad options if you aren't entwined in the left/right camps. There aren't any allowances for someone who may lean more Libertarian than Right, and there was no room for Classic Liberalism either.

    I usually just stay out of these discussions. It really serves no purpose other than to give others a reason to label you, which leads to all sorts of assumptions depending on what degree of propaganda the reader has accepted.
     
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    I was referring to their sheer hypocrisy of being staunchly against any and all hunting, yet consumers of meat as long as it “comes in those packages” in the store. They saw NO moral equivalence whatsoever, and refused to acknowledge they were just as “guilty” (if such a word should be used) of causing the death of an animal as any hunter.

    THAT “maths”… (simple logic actually)
     
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    I’m with @crazychile on this: that test is utter shite. So typical of pretty much any/all polling; it’s designed to divide and be divisive. Life, choices, and believes are not so “black and white” (If one can still use that phrase) as those questions tried to force,

    Nonetheless, I came out “Ambivalent Right” What evs…
     
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    Please excuse the rather extreme selective quote here.
    They grew up to be bankers. And if they didn't, their kids did.

    I'm very sad that the flame of the sixties was so easily dulled, if not extinguished. Although, perhaps it literally went up in smoke.

    Nicky my child he stands there with the wind in his hair
    Wondering whether the water the wind of the where
    I fear that someday he might ask me if mine is the blame
    And I've got no reply save to tell him it's all just a game




    Went up in smoke or... got remastered, hahaha.
     
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    Sort of sums up our political culture today. I am straining to think of representatives of Classical Liberalism today. Maybe Bill Maher on the left, Vivek Ramaswamy on the right?? The fact that I'm straining reveals just how far from our Classical Liberal roots we have fallen. Small minorities like the Jews are finding out what happens when the ground (of Classical Liberalism) has been swept away underneath them when they weren't paying attention.

    The energy of the cultural revolution of the sixties is still as bright as ever in its step children (e.g. DEI, transhumanism, etc.). Your right however that the internal principals of that generation turned out to be shallow and baseless, but this is understandable as they rested on nothing more than each individuals peculiar expression of, well their own peculiar individualism (i.e. the Cartesian Self - the "Radical Self"). @Bowmoreman's Aunt & uncle were such archetypal expressions of the confident-yet-incoherent and in the end very disintegrating spirit of those times/peoples.
     
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  9. purr1n

    purr1n Desire for betterer is endless.

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    If you are looking for a precise definition of you as an individual, then the Pew stuff is the wrong way to go. You have to understand where Pew is coming from. They do research to help political candidates. I bet the results will have a strong bearing on how you vote despite no party of "classical liberalism" and its oversimplification / pigeonholing.

    I'm not offended that I was labeled as “Ambivalent Right” even though I see myself leaning libertarian or anarchist (laws only apply if I agree to them). That is less government (opposite from statist) and socially liberal (don't give a crap what you do, even if you want to have sex with birds or identity as a Capybara or a different race).\

    Still, the Pew stuff is a good indicator. If you are on the extremes, best not to talk politics on SBAF or get anywhere near politics, even in this thread. This applies of course to people who cannot control themselves.
     
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    Y, I took it for fun, the test is a laundry list of what establishment left would want you to be. My score would, and should, automaticaly cause a lifetime ban on, for example, preElon Twitter. Good that I have never been on any social media.
     
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    Yeah, it’s Pew. The questions are intentional and super basic/generalized to feed a specific formula or algorithm that lets them do broader analysis of groups that they then can tweak to see if they’re predictive of anything in polling - everything there is a work in progress because they have a financial incentive to try and demonstrate they have some amount of accuracy to outside groups. It’s not meant to be some hard and fast identification of your ideological nuances. I’m as left as can be and it made my eyes roll too, but it’s not a surprise.
     
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    I don't agree with that! Immature, maybe; naive perhaps...
     
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    That's not a point. You take naive, baseless, immature, whatever ideas and march them through the institutions.
    What you get is what Yuri Beznmenow described so well.
    These days the value of ideas can be eveluated only in the context of how they can be,and will be, used to make people deny what they know, what they can see, and totally surrender everything, even their senses. to the narrative.
     
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    I agree, guilty is not the right word, but consciousness of the value of life, and gratitude for the value being provided by taking life for sustenance of another life doesn't quite roll off the tongue. My uncle took me bow hunting several times, and although I never really got into it, it did appeal to me as an appropriate measure of force. If I'm to tie it back in to Thad's defense of hippy's, my uncle who took me bow hunting, he is a big hippy (that makes excellent venison summer sausage).
     
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    Funny, that's how I feel about churches.
     
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    This conversation I don't even understand. I'm lacking the intelectual capacity or, maybe, the points of reference. No idea who Yuri B is.

    But, whether the answer is on-point or not, this I can say...

    The value of ideas is often in making people question what they think they know. Or have been taught. Or generally accepted.

    The "sixties" were a breath of fresh air. And there is very simple and forum-appropriate evidence of that: look at the music!
     
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    Have to do a minor vent: The shit at Columbia University happening ATM is not protesting but terrorism. Barricading and causing damage to a building is no different than being Hamas. Protesting is one thing, but causing damage is just being a terrorist at this point. If they want be like terrorist, they should be treated like terrorist.
     
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    Well I would say it's not exactly the same. It is trespassing, squatting, damaging property, etc. etc. and of course if there was a will it could all be cleared out within an hour legally. If they were 'protesting' abortion or something similar none of this would be tolerated and everybody knows it.

    It's all part of the Leftist Show, and therefore meaningless. I tell you what though, when I see them holding up signs saying ' push them out' and ' there are more of you than there are them' it does make me want to see somebody hold up a sign saying ' carpet bomb Gaza' or something similar.
     
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    Pretty dramatic re: what constitutes “terrorism”.
     
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    Maybe those who worship those who commit actual murderous terrorism is close?

    All I see is a toxic combo of:
    1. Ridiculously over-privileged ignorant young people chasing societies latest leftist dreams in ill considered ways (most of these young nitwits). Too stupid to think through anything involving, say, logic
    2. A small cadre of truly racist, anti-Semitic, supporters of violence to get them all whipped up. (Not just radical Islamists, put professional “rabble rousers”)
    3. The usual globalists paying to fund the frenzies as they make themselves ever richer whilst pitting groups against one another to pull the wool over their eyes.

    Same as it ever was.

    Ironic the D’s are making their political bed in Chicago this year…. Just like 1968… same scheit, diffferent generations.

    People. Don’t. Learn
     
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