Somehow, my set made it to me from Japan before my micropore tape got to me here in the US. I will say that Amazon.jp packaging is so much nicer than the US. Out of the box, I see how these might have potential, though they are nearly unlistenable as they are. I like the big bass. It could definitely use some attenuation, but the thump that I am missing with my borrowed Orions is definitely here. Super sibilant and tilted up. I know I am sensitive to treble, but I don't see how these would be pleasant or preferred for many people who don't have hearing problems. I can't tell yet if there is more detail or if the treble spotlight is simply tricking me. I swapped over to some cheap Aliexpress foam tips and the fit is very nice. The Orions were ok as long I kept them at a certain angle, but these are nice and tiny, held comfortably and securely by the foam. I do worry about the durability of the stock cable, but these don't look like they will be a good candidate for mounting a socket for a removable cable due to how small they are. Just have to be careful with them. At any rate for less than $30 these were worth a shot. Will update after mods. Thanks for bringing these to the community's attention. Definitely better than the Massdrop RE-0's that were about the same price.