SBAF Spring Cleaning

Discussion in 'How to Win Friends and Influence People' started by MrTeaRex, Jun 15, 2020.

  1. MrTeaRex

    MrTeaRex His head's not fat, he's my brother!

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    I replaced a desktop hi-fi stack consisting of a Lavry DA-11 and Phonitor 2 with a MOTU 828ES at the start of COVID-19 work from home. Don't miss that stack at all.

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  2. purr1n

    purr1n Finding his inner redneck

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    Bullshit. You don't have this. There's no reason why you would need 16 channels AD/DA, and from my understanding, you don't any play musical instruments where the gate and compression would come in handy, or require secondary functions such as an analyzer. You look down on cheap gear. You've looked at SBAF with disdain for years now while participating in the loaner program. If my memory serves correctly, a package of several cheap DACs on the loaner program was lost by you. For all I know you deliberately sabotaged that loaner by throwing the box in the trash.

    Your timing is rather impeccable. You posted the above after I mentioned I was going to clean house because on @RobS' ill-advised actions in the Callia thread. You knew you were on the list, when I wasn't even sure yet. Well, I'm pretty sure now.

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  3. purr1n

    purr1n Finding his inner redneck

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    C'mon guys, the unicorn didn't give it away?
     
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    TheIceman93 El pato-zorro

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    I'm so lost. I must have missed the Anti-SBAF PSYOPS thing. Nope, this one flew right over my head.

    I can't wrap my head around why SBAF members trash this site on other forums using the same screen name. They seem to always get caught.
     
  5. purr1n

    purr1n Finding his inner redneck

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    That tag wasn't there initially. It came later only after I was totally sure. I had "heard" things but wasn't sure because I don't like to rely on hearsay. I bluffed that I knew who these people were and that there would be a reckoning. TeaRex took the bait. I got the hard evidence later, just a few hours ago.

    It bothers me more that any person would continue to participate on this forum while they continuously trashed it elsewhere for years. If I didn't like something, I'd just leave.

    Using the same handle allows these people to be familiar to any malcontents that they recruit from SBAF. A few were actually smart enough to use alternate handles. Doesn't matter because we would still know who they are based on their mannerisms and references to gear.
     
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  6. Riotvan

    Riotvan Got lost for three weeks at Delft City Hall

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    The fuck is wrong with people? This is the equivalent of tp-ing a bar and then going in for a drink.
     
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    *hugs everyone else here at SBAF*
     
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  8. purr1n

    purr1n Finding his inner redneck

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    It's incredibly sad and disheartening. The little tidbit I posted was nothing. I'm not sure I want to post any more of it because it would cause a lot of hurt - they've crapped on a lot of folks here. These are guys with $30k-$70k systems and somehow didn't get the memo that SBAF was about promoting affordable gear and finding odd bargains.
     
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  9. Lyander

    Lyander Too sensitive for SBAF

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    Good booze if you know what to ask for but some disagree with the d├ęcor I guess, not enough gilding? Reminds me I recently learned that one of my fave local breweries shut down. Dammit.

    But yeah, comms over the internet is hard enough without duplicity; forthrightness can save time and grief.
     
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  10. JoshMorr

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    Discord isnt exactly a anti SBAF / Anti Marv campaign. Quick education on discord for those who are out of the loop. There are dozens of discords discussing audio, thousands of users of all ages, and is generally a fairly wholesome - but due to it being less moderated, people are less filtered. I work in construction, and it reminds me a bit of a jobsite where you talk all day and individual comments arent as carefully crafted as they are on a forum.

    The place where Marv's screen shot was taken is a place where a couple dozen former active members of SBAF discuss audio and unrelated items. Actually reminds me alot of Chang, good information being passed among friends flavored with inside jokes and more truth. Ever wonder what happened to your favorite posters of content? Many of them migrated to one of several different spots on discords. Marv posted a snip of him being mentioned, but the things that we say about each other are actually much worse (think hanging out will college buddies and having a few drinks), the person who sent the screen shots has said worse - information no one ever thought was interesting enough to run back to the teacher with.

    Mr Tea Rex actually does own the MOTU, we've been discussing for months. Psalmanzars gospel spreads far and wide. He has owned dozens of the items discussed here, he rarely discusses them at either place. MOTU stands for Mark Of The Unicorn, so thats been an inside joke. Was he shitposting? Sure, but he was opening the window to more conversation on the topic and having a bit of fun.

    Im not anti SBAF, in 100% pro sbaf. Do I visit as often as I used to? No. Barely listen to headphones, cycling through gear much much slower and more turntable and 2 channel focused. I am extremely appreciative of the information, friends, and loaners I've recieved as a friend here. Im less interested im budget items, temporarily popular headphones, amps etc. Content has slipped from its heyday, but I'm as much of a part of that as anyone else, I could have contributed more, PM'd members less, held impressions from discord and posted here. I'm not as keen on becoming manacured author with flowery metaphors on dacs ala Torq etc, so a free flowing conversation fits me better.

    Marv - dont become Jude. Dont think the world is against you due to a few offhand comments, banning discord members due to association. Thats why we all joked about head-fi, that they were out of touch and removed posts and threatened bans at mention of SBAF. A witch hunt for discord users based on if they've liked their friends posts seems a bit silly. This place holds an important part of my past, and I hope many others can find it and expand their knowledge of audio, find people to form long lasting friendships with, and ultimately get the most enjoyment from music as they can.
     
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    @purr1n if this is the way you want to play it's definitely your right, it is your playground after all. But I am confused as to why plenty of active cross posters between the discord and here did not get the chop. I have been supportive of SBAF, in posting history, in my role as mod on Headphone Headquarters, in offering deals to friends, and impressions. Have I been critical of you and SBAF from time to time in those places sure I have, but it's certianly no big conspiracy or hatred. I had fun, learned somet made some good Audio Assoiciates along the way. I agree with Josh's points. You're going to do what you're going to do as is your right, but I think taking out people blowing off steam in a unrelated place is silly and paranoid. Either way it's been real dude.
     
  12. k4rstar

    k4rstar Done his time

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    i always said that @JoshMorr guy was a bad apple

    im not allowed to say anything bad about @MrTeaRex because he sent me a Texan care package for xmas

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    Any ideas for a SBAF loyalty oath?
     
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  14. purr1n

    purr1n Finding his inner redneck

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    @Stuff Jones: I haven't had a chance to respond, but that wasn't appreciated.
     
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    Hands Overzealous Auto Flusher - Measurbator

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    No?

    Didn't someone else already try to make these lame excuses in an attempt to downplay their actions? "Oh, we say worse things to each other. Oh, we've said worse in general. Oh, the snitch says bad things about you too."

    Y'all know that being shitheads towards your friends and others isn't necessarily good and normal, right?

    Posting pictures of shit still flies, you know. In all seriousness, I get the advantages of IM/text-based chat groups. Plenty of us do that on the side too. Nothing inherently wrong with Discord or similar. But, of course, we know that's not actually the issue at hand here.

    I don't recall many of us shit talking Jude and/or Head-Fi and then waxing poetic on Head-Fi itself about how we held that time dear and made so many friends, and that we wished Jude would just be OK with us being rascals elsewhere while continuing to let us post on Head-Fi. Not saying no one did that, but anyone that did probably didn't stick around long, and it wasn't the norm.

    That, and I believe the beef with Jude/Head-Fi had roots extending well beyond what you outlined.
     
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    It was lighthearted but unnecessarily antagonistic and therefore deleted. I understand you put a lot of work into this site and therefore would be pissed about members gratuitously badmouthing it elsewhere. I don't think a witch hunt for members who have spoken ill of SBAF elsewhere is good for the ethos of the site though.
     
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    The only thing that would hurt me is if no one talked about me behind my back.
     
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    Hands Overzealous Auto Flusher - Measurbator

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    You could at least have the balls to leave it up:

    "Any ideas for a SBAF loyalty oath?"
     
  19. JoshMorr

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    What kind of boring ass company do you keep? Toughen up buttercup.

    I've got bad news for you...


    I get the worse stuff was said is bullshit defense. But there is something to be said about 5 lines being cherry picked dating back years. Don't feel like this needs to become a trial on human decency, but the least surprising thing should be a self proclaimed pirate ship having pirates on it. :sail:
     
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    You're welcome to resurrect it if possible. I regretted posting it for the reasons I stated but I'm not hiding from it.
     

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