Schiit Yggdrasil Less is More (and MIL and OG) Impressions + Measurements

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Should SBAF get a loaner Yggdrasil Less Is More?

  1. Yes, please!

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  2. Only if there isn't anything else more interesting

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  3. No, I would prefer for a loaner an overpriced planar that looks like it's from House Harkonnen

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  4. Save up for something better

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  1. Aklegal

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    In JRiver the user can do the following:

    tools -->options -->audio

    In the "settings" section look for "Play silence at startup for hardware synchronization" then select the length of time needed to give the Yggdrasil time to "catch up". 1/4 second has been long enough for mine.
     
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    Wow, that's really good option, I wish foobar had that so that I didn't need to figure this out.. xD
    Now I know if I ever decide to switch to JRiver it won't have issue with the LIM! Thanks for the insight!
     
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    Another solution is using the "Affix silence" component (foo_dsp_silence). Despite its name you can use it to prefix silence.
    After installing it, create a DSP profile with that plugin as the only DSP. Set "Silence before" for it to a suitable value (experiment to find one that is sufficiently long), save the DSP profile and make sure it's active (right clicking the tool bar and enabling "DSP Switcher" can help with that).
    Before any track this will insert silence with whatever bit depth and sample rate that track has, giving the DAC a chance to get a lock and unmute before the actual song is transmitted to it.

    Edit: Missed the previous two posts while writing this, this seems to be equivalent to the JRiver approach.
     
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    Final bout: A2 vs LIM (third-swap-is-the-charm edition, plus dicking around more with tubes and minor speaker positioning).

    Victory: LIM.

    ...in case anyone is paying attention to my back-and-forth.
     
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    Because??
     
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    The slight softness or lack of air i experienced with it was mitigated by tweaking speaker toe-in plus going back to some RCA cleartop 12AU7s.

    Overall, LIM has more convincing tone plus attack/leading edge transients compared to A2.
     
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    @yotacowboy have you noticed the decrease in resolution ("plankton") and/or increase in "blackground" that others have mentioned when switching from A2 to LIM?
     
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    There was a comparative lack of resolution with the LIM boards, initially. My speaker setup is a bit dependent on toe-in to get the room and speakers to work well together. Most folks with speakers similar to mine (AN UK) find that toe-ing to have the firing axes cross up to a meter in front of the listening position works well, which is how I had mine set up.

    After re-installing LIM, I set the toe-in so I'm sitting directly on-axis, and also took some time with a laser distance tool to dial in ear-to-tweeter to be within 1/4", speaker to speaker. Finally, I plopped in the tubes I've found to most accentuate both air and space, as well as inner detail/microdetail; RCA cleartop 12AU7s. Those two changes were enough to get me past my initial criticisms of the LIM.

    My setup doesn't have the lowest natural noise floor (usually about 40-42dB with all other appliances and stuff turned off) and I typically listen at 70-75 dBs, so, I'm probably not the best person to comment on blackground.
     
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    Guys, LIM is staying. You were right, proper break in was needed. Not 1-2 weeks but more 1-2 months. Jaw dropping...
     
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    Anyone got impressions they’d like to share on Yggdrasil Less is More vs Denafrips terminator?

    Would be nice to know how these stack up…
     
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    Why the dislike? Genuine question isn't it?
     
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    Anyone might be able to share if Yggdrasil LIM is better synergy than any version of Gugnir for a SW51+ and bs650 user?
     
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    Any chance you have updated the two charts to reflect the addition of Bifrost 2/64?
     

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    I assume the dislike was due to the perceived the lack of effort in trying to search and read what's already on the site.
     

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