Monoprice Monolith Liquid Platinum Headphone Amplifier by Alex Cavalli

Discussion in 'Headphone Amplifiers and Combo (DAC/Amp) Units' started by Vtory, Apr 4, 2018.

  1. GoodEnoughGear

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    @kevlar397 there are warnings about this place on the title banner above. Live up to your handle and you'll be OK. If you get offended easily you'll become entertainment.
     
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    Skyline Double-blindly done with this hobby

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    If you think that positive and helpful = always being kind and cheery, then you're in the wrong place.

    People here are going to be blunt. You should have multi-quoted rather than making three separate posts. He pointed that out, which IS helpful. And positive.

    But, let's not derail this thread with that kind of stuff. It's better addressed via PM. Back to the LP, please.
     
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    Helpful, absolutely, but positive? Have you seen a thread with a picture of poop used to review a product? :p

    Don't think too much about it! It's easy to misjudge the tone via text after all, and even if the tone isn't cheerful, I doubt it's anything malicious. If you read/lurk more, you'd know. Anyway, back to the LP.
     
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    Ah, gentlemen. I see that my understanding of this forum is way off base. You guys seem to find enjoyment in being rude and tactless and then pass it off as being straight forward, tough, or manly. How sad. Well, I'm out of here. Have fun putting down my comments here and what ever it is you'll do to try to feel better about yourselves.
     
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    Sure thing, to each their own. It's worth a little adjustment if you decide to check back in.
     
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    You seem to have taken some technical advice on posting personally. Relax, take a breath, lurk and don't be easily offended.:piratemug:
     
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    I seem to have totally missed the part where this happened to you. Maybe you’re reading too much into it.
     
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    And leaves on a self fulfilling prophecy. I take it this isn't the first time this has happened to you. And you seemingly have learned nothing from those previous experiences.

    Do you know what most people that show up here do when they find out this isn't the place for them? They just leave. No goodbyes. No saltiness. No rage quit.

    This message isn't for you. This is for others to see how not to behave in a forum like this.
     
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    Dude, don't be an ass and just get over it. You asked some good questions and they all got answered way better than anyone at HF ever could. I've seen new people treated far worse. No one here hates you or anything like that. Get use to direct communication on how to properly conduct yourself and put your hurt feelings aside, keeping in mind that we do act like 9 year olds.

    First of all, a couple of points, some reiterated:
    • Gungnir A2 is gimped if you do not use the balanced outputs. Also the tonality is slightly cool / neutral. Therefore most people will prefer Bifrost 2 with its semi-vintage-R2R sound.
    • Personally I prefer Lyr 3 over the Monoprice LP. I am keeping the GS1000 that you have in mind. Other amps to consider with like presentation are the Asgard 3 and Night Blues Mini / Drop ZDT Jr (if you can find one). I don't care as much for Asgard 3 or LP and would much rather take the Lyr 3 or ZDT Jr. Just personal opinion.
    • If you use balanced outputs, you will get x2 more gain, thus possibly require XLR line-level attenuation adapter with super efficient Grados. With SE output, you may be able to get away with Lyr 3's or Asgard 3's low gain setting.
    If you want to ask more questions in a safer environment, you can always come to my Animal Crossing Island named "SBAF", Nintendo Network ID "purr1n"
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    Not everything I mention applies to you, unless you perceive it that way, but here are some things to consider.
    SBAF is unusual in keeping a high signal to noise ratio in the forum threads. This is accomplished by thoughtful posting by the forum members. Many useful facts, suggestions, objective and subjective data may be found here. To be useful, information must be able to be found. Searching through a number of posts with all noise and no signal is annoying at best. We expect members to do their homework but not ask to be spoon-fed information.

    @Mithrandir41 gave you what I would have perceived as a gentle ribbing, akin to having your ass tickled with a feather.

    Do a little research and you will find full back-alley beatdowns, tied to the mast floggings often followed by walking the plank.

    Keep in mind that contributors here often drink, but only to excess. We have real lives outside this forum so we hang here to exchange useful information, sometimes just drink and commiserate the state of our focused interests, maybe the world in general, but usually that is done in profile posts.

    Another useful research tool involves using a search engine and something similar to the following examples:
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    Nothing much to add. They worked fine. Nothing added or taken away from the sound. I wasn't using a pre-amp at the time, so they were series with an Emotiva Control Freak balanced volume pot between the DAC and a speaker amp for use with my HE-6's. I am now using a Freya pre-amp in place of the balanced pot and an Akustek passive pre-amp in place of the Naiant attenuators. I like the tube effect the Freya adds to my rather sterile power amp and the Khozmo Akustek gives me very fine volume steps independently for each channel that I can use for centering the soundstage because I have now a bit of hearing loss in my left ear that it helps to compensate. I don't think it matters what order they go in, but I always used the stepped attenuators (and now the Khozmo) at the input of the power amp.
     
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    Anything that would bring an amp closer to the DSHA-3F is well worth time and money!
     
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    No need to keep that pricey DSHA-3F anymore, send it my way!! ;)
     
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    In your dreams :)
     
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    The $64K question is does the mod get the LP closer to the Liquid Crimson.

    I've been following discussions of that mod as well. I'm intrigued.

    I've got a Liquid Fire and the Liquid Platinum. My issue with the LP is that it doesn't have quite the level of transparency of the Liquid Fire. Transparency in the sense that you can better hear through the amp to what the DAC and source recording are doing. The Liquid Fire does that very well (for me) while still showing off the sonic flavor of the amp. I consider the Liquid Fire to have a very see-through rose colored transparency. The Liquid Platinum is more opaque. I'd like to nudge the LP to have a little more transparency. To narrow that performance gap between the LF and the LP.
     
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    Can’t speak to Liquid Crimson as I’ve never heard it, but ...

    I would definitely say the the mod improves transparency. I’ve rolled in my Brimar CV-2492 which moves tonality very close to the 3F w/ Amorphous transformers. The resulting sound is really close to the 3F. Over on HF someone asked why the 3F/Utopia pairing is good — part of my response was that the pairing: “... Somehow manages to be almost ‘wire-with-gain’ without seeming boring/referency/analytical”. Modded LP w/ Brimar goes to the same place. In fact, the biggest difference between the two amps in these configurations is the marginally larger headstage the 3F presents.

    All JMHO, my ears/your ears of course.
     
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