Comments on Profile Post by Collusion

  1. elmoe
    elmoe
    If your title didn't change, it's pretty common. If your title changed, you should get a paid bump, negotiate. Sometimes it's worth taking on more without a title change if you think it'll lead to an actual promotion/pay bump. That's when it pays off to keep your head down for awhile and get shit done.
    Jan 14, 2020
  2. Collusion
    Collusion
    The new task is going to take approx. 30% of my time. Unless I am doing overtime, there's a change I've to neglect my other tasks...
    Jan 14, 2020
  3. Lyander
    Lyander
    Depends on how the company's doing. If everyone else around you's stretched pretty thin then it could just be hard times (relatively speaking). Another possibility is that that the Powers that Be have faith in your work and want to maximise use of your skills, much as doing so without a pay raise is mean.
    Jan 14, 2020
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  4. Lyander
    Lyander
    Communication is key. I used to hate confrontation but my old job taught that if you take everything they throw at you with a smile then they'll happily keep at it with nothing but a thank you in exchange. I'm not saying to turn the work down, @elmoe raises a good point about this being a possible investment in good will, but if you feel it's undoable then they might actually appreciate a reality check.

    Might.
    Jan 14, 2020
  5. elmoe
    elmoe
    It's a fine line between working towards bettering your career in the near future and being taken advantage of. Though it's not part of American culture I always discuss salaries with my co workers and encourage them to ask for more money if they're grossly underpaid. Companies should invest in their workers first and foremost
    Jan 14, 2020
  6. Lyander
    Lyander
    For the record I have never really understood why it was so strongly discouraged, discussing salaries with friends. Sure it might inspire envy but at the same time there's risk of newbs getting paid more than tenured staff who work twice as much. At the end of the day people should be paid based on ability (which in turn should be public shiz), but that's just me maybe
    Jan 14, 2020
  7. Collusion
    Collusion
    The underlying reason is this: a colleague quit his job (no drama involved here). Management is not going to hire a replacement, thus all his tasks are handed to other people. If company is going to save some money on smaller staff costs, wouldn't it be reasonable to make even a small compensation for those with an increased workload.
    Jan 14, 2020
  8. elmoe
    elmoe
    Its discouraged to discuss salaries because people will ask for raises when they find out coworkers make more. So companies discourage it, and workers fall in line. Ultimately, paying your employees more = rise in productivity, rise in consumerism, and the economy as a whole gains.
    Jan 14, 2020
  9. Ntbm3
    Ntbm3
    I wish it was that simple! Each employee has different experience, actual performance, time in the company and skills so it is impossible to equitably compare salaries with you co-workers. I think it is definitely a bad idea and would not recommend it. Your HR partner should be able to explain/show you where you are relative to you peers in your appropriate grade level.
    Jan 14, 2020
  10. Ntbm3
    Ntbm3
    Collusion, think of this as an opportunity. Make sure this new responsibility is added to your goals/performance tracking. Kill it and use it to justify a pay/promo at the next review timing.... if that is what you actually want :)
    Jan 14, 2020
  11. elmoe
    elmoe
    Jan 14, 2020
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  12. elmoe
    elmoe
    And I say this as someone who regularly interviews/hires/supervises people on my team and will not hesitate to fight for pay increases for my guys should I feel they deserve them :)
    Jan 14, 2020
  13. sphinxvc
    sphinxvc
    It completely depends, money is not the only type of compensation.
    Jan 14, 2020
  14. YMO
    YMO
    It's depends. At my job many people had their job title changed (even went up a Band Salary Level) but didn't get a pay bump. They only gave you a pay bump if you were making below the new Band Level, so they would just increase your pay to the min amount in the new Band Level. Then again I'm in US Banking where the higher you go the more underpaid you will be in the market.
    Jan 14, 2020
  15. YMO
    YMO
    I had managers fighting for better pay increases and results were mixed. SVPs will approve some but not approve others. One was only making $15/hr for a job that should be paying $20/hr. Manager try to get him closer to $20/hr but the SVP didn't approved it saying $15/hr is FL market rate and we do salary based on competition and market rate. Guy left shortly after and was making $21/hr some place else.
    Jan 14, 2020
  16. dasman66
    dasman66
    If you are already paid above market rate for your position, then it is a title change to reflect your current pay. If you are underpaid for your position, then it's a promotion that you can use on your resume to find a higher paying job.
    Jan 14, 2020
  17. Ntbm3
    Ntbm3
    None taken, and I do the same for my team. I guess it depends on the profession and complexity of the job specifically. I have had an employee try to justify a promotion by saying his co-workers think he does a good job... but never truly understood what output was of high value to the company. He did not last long after that.
    Jan 14, 2020
  18. Biodegraded
    Biodegraded
    Collusion, you answered your own question: it's neither promotion nor punishment, just 'management'.
    Jan 14, 2020
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  19. Syzygy
    Syzygy
    This is just being done to interfere with your extra-curricular "something big"!
    Jan 14, 2020
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  20. Deep Funk
    Deep Funk
    If there are no prospects for a promotion based on your potentially improved performance, rethink your future there. If management does not appreciate the effort, find a better place to build your career. This is not easy to deduce and reason out of. It depends on you. I left some places on principle. If I did not feel appreciated, I left.
    Jan 14, 2020
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