Lyr 3 Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Headphone Amplifiers and Combo (DAC/Amp) Units' started by neogeosnk, Mar 20, 2018.

  1. purr1n

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    Two more changes. Plankton is +0.5, maybe +1 over Val and Rag - using Yggdrasil A2. Just a bit more nuance and extracts that last bit of low level information. Macrodynamics +0.5 over Jot.
     
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    Would love a comparison to Torpedo 3. If it's not too far behind T3, I will definitely pick this one up. :D
     
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    Now version 3!

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    Lyr3 pentagon became more beautiful. Damn.. (resisting myself to press check-out button)
     
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    Can you redo the colors so there aren't three blue lines and one grey that all look alike?
     
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    Just a theory. Maybe the change in sound with the latest Jotunheims come from adding a constant transconductance output stage?
     
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    Like the below?

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    (The same v3, but with different colors)
     
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  7. purr1n

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    Yeah. Looks really good now and how I hear things.

    That's pretty much it. It's no joke. Imagine a Class A speaker amp or a Magni / Vali sized version of this. Sure the vetted summit-fi stuff is still going to be better. But at some point, most people are going to be sufficiently satisifed, and find that money can be better spent on good quality beer, bourbon, weed, or hiking with friends.
     
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    Wouldn't that justify updating the performance of the Jot on the chart? Or maybe a description of how it changes the sound? Also don't they just need to put this into the current Vidar to make it "class A" while still being cool? Or would that require a redesign?
     
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    I wonder how the atticus would pair with the Lyr 3 ...
     
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    Not sure if you have a module in your Lyr 3, but if yours is empty... could you, please, check if shifting the switch "Up" would do anything like cutting off the input signal or shutting the amp off; effectively like a power switch at the front?

    I did read the manual, but it wasn't clear if it's just shunted to ground & Shut off or Muted (while in the up position), or just left on regardless.

    Manual References:
     
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    No module, but that's probably a better question for @schiit because I'd have no idea if the power to the module was turned off with the switch.
     
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    Having recently acquired a T3 (paired with Gungnir Multibit), I'm also super curious about a comparison. T3 (with good NOS tubes) is far and away better than any Schiit amps I've heard, but I wouldn't say my musical enjoyment has skyrocketed. It's almost more about intellectual appreciation of sound over any kind of improved visceral/emotional impact. I don't necessarily enjoy Steely Dan's "Aja" anymore with T3 than I did with Lyr2 when I owned it. But I can appreciate the subtle differences enough to feel comfortable with my purchase.
     
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    Fair enough, Marv, well hopefully Mr Stoddard could kindly chime-in and clarify it a bit, sometime later on.



    As I remember, some time ago, @schiit said that there weren't any changes made to Jotunheim's BOM, nor its topology, nor any revisions to its main board. I think I even asked Laura/Nick via Email and they said just about the same thing. Unless Schiit made a silent-revision*, to fix something, but didn't want to specify what exactly.

    Could it also be—what @Bill-P & @purr1n also talked about on their "Tale of two Jots - Baking trip"—that the Amps were simply getting burned-in properly, over time, or just that our ears/noggins were getting fully used to and accustomed w/ its peculiar but synergistic sound signature, especially w/ certain Senn headphones?


    *But I have a feeling we'll probably never know. :eek:
     
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    Headstage depth vs Valhalla 2?
     
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    Let me be devil's advocate here : is Schiit becoming more and more the Beyerdynamic of headphones amps (tons of mid-fi releases with poor customer's readability across the range) ? :p

    Or maybe a kinda nefarious intent from Jason to squeeze as much bucks as it gets from the average hobbyist who can't afford high-end stuff but"could do a little effort to get something above Magni / Vali range" ? :D

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    Does Schiit have poor reliability? I think they've done well in this regard given their extensive warranty period of 5 years for most products vs most vendors' 1 year.

    They're probably closer to becoming (a, at minimum, aesthetically, better) Audio GD with a mind boggling spread of products with multiple functions and upgrades. ;)
     
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    Readability is different from reliability :p

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    Pretty sure they're also annoyed by the amount of different products they have to stock parts for!

    I remember reading Jason thinking of dropping the DS Gungnir and Bifrost as easy targets there, and it looks like Asgard 2 might go.

    Everything else kind of has a purpose, except mjolnir 2 looks superseded by lyr 3.
     
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    Lyr 3 + teased balanced IP = Mjolnir 3
    Just guessing.
     
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    Anodizing is cool and would probably look a little better than cera, but its a bit more involved than cerakoting and not something that one can do in their backyard. Thats why I would first reccomend cera. The loss of th labels and logos is the only downside.
     
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