Merv's Politically Incorrect Audio Blog

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  1. Senorx12562

    Senorx12562 Case of the mondays

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    So this is kind of random but it hit me as I was sitting here listening to music - so many options now days, so many speakers, headphones, amps, DACs, cables, and other accessories. A good $500 setup is still possible, but I know many of us are easily $10k+ into this audio hobby and I am not surprised when I see many setups over $100k. i.e. not a small amount of "stuff".

    Then I thought about the amount of "stuff" and consequently the amount of (unknowning) coordination and inevitable work between different peoples who believe fundamentally different things, have different ways of life, and different goals that is implied by all of this - people who may hate or kill each other in real life if they had to meet together to work on these things even 40-50 years ago (i.e. not that long ago). The amount of manufacturing this all took. Gathering, coordination, and distribution of resources, manufacturing, and knowledge. On and on.

    And just stopped to think - this is actually all pretty amazing.

    Yet, on the other hand, the more I look around both the developed and developing world (or first vs third world depending on world view), between many now rival nations and ideologies, the general instability in the world right now, and nations not wanting to rely on exports and working together as much. And I started to wonder - how is this hobby going to look in 20 or 30 years without this kind of coordination? Add on top of this that in every industrial or somewhat industrialized country I look at - production as a whole seems to be in a state of decline, the general quality of life has declined for the average person and some formerly nice or at least OK places half resemble failed states now, at least in some parts. Including the US. And also wonder - how is this also going to impact our hobby in 20 - 30 years?

    And now back to the regularly scheduled music because the best part of the song is on now.
     
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    If the only thing that doesn't survive the next 30 years is the personal audio industry we shall all dance naked on the beach.

    You'll need to be specific as my understanding is worldwide the quality of living has actually increased in the past ten years. China makes those numbers a bit wacky though.

    I tried to make this point to someone this week and they didn't quite get me. My point was there's only two states for civilization: growing instability or outright war. The cycle goes from one to the other.

    So if the world is unstable, that's as good as you can ask for, it has never been safe or stable. Enjoy any peace while it lasts.
     
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    Should clarify - I don't think the hobby will disappear unless the world blows itself up. Just curious how things will look if X components are no longer available in Y places, Z manufacturer is having problems with export, etc.

    I would say QOL increased maybe sometime between 2000 and 2010 for some nations that were not as developed, but looking around, I still think it's decreased on average in the last 10 years, especially in developed places.

    I can see your last point actually. Guess it's how the individual instability will look.
     
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    @penguins go outside and sell your audio gear.
     
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    You mean like Covid? lol

    People will just change their tastes to what they can afford and manufacturers will change their designs for what is available.

    When we lost Russian tubes it just drove demand for solid state and manufacturers like Schiit redesigned amps to take the tubes they could still buy in quantity.

    This is one of the reasons "Limits to Growth" and peak oil haven't come to pass. The world finds another way because previously unaffordable alternatives become affordable. Then with scale and development, they become the new status quo and people forget the old ways.
     
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    QoL index is measured with objective stats. Ours was very high ten years ago but dropped big between 2014 and 2016 (global economy was hurting bad at the end of 2015). Started to climb slowly and then bottomed out with COVID. Started to rise again since and this year it climbed significantly.
     
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  10. purr1n

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    It will be fine. Audio is hardly state of the art regardless of Amir's penchant for mentioning "state of the art" with respect to Topping and high SINAD gear (using Texas Instruments parts).

    USA and its allies will stop letting China import massive quantities of the latest and greatest Nvidia made by TSMC AI chips (or whatever will be SOTA in the future). So what? China will figure out how to make such things themselves, albeit they will only as good as the prior gen or two gens back. Example is how Huawei got back on track with cellphones. They figured out how to make the cellphone parts themselves. Not quite as good as the SOTA, but it works.

    USA with its new jingoists will say they want to bring everything home, but this is just not possible. The Chinese are amazing in that they are willing to try, to go the extra mile, to get any kind of business. In the USA or EU, say if CEE TEE has a special request for the latest amp he's working on, the attitude is like "FU not worth it for me" or "pay a us lot" respectively.

    We will still buy a "crap" from Walmart, Amazon, Target (all from China) and China will be all too willing to sell such crap because all they really know how to do is make shit. China has have a ton of investment into production and massive excess capacity. We are already seeing it. China is desperate because if they don't keep selling (by lowering prices, taking a loss, getting subsidies), then their people go out of work, and when their people go out of work, then Xi's life is in danger. China is not a stable country. The people are aging, the southerners still don't care for the northerners, the industry is unbalanced on the production side, there is massive hidden debt, rich people are trying to move their money out, and young people hate it there. I bought this airfryer for $69 at Walmart and it's amazeballs. Yes, $69!

    I bet Schiit has been able to keep their lower end stuff cheap as hell with even more functionality and better quality volumes knobs too. All this because China is in deep shit right now. Take a look at the Unity with DAC card. Amazing deal for the money, both subjectively and objectively.

    If anything, USA and EU will put up anti-dumping barriers (already started) to protect certain domestic industries. This probably isn't a bad thing because the "globalism is good" 2000s saw a ton of Americans in textiles, furniture, and appliances lose their livelihoods. The powers in the USA sold the country out completely (I still remember Hillary's BS on "re-training". Yeah right, try turning the guy making Whirlpool washers into a Javascript coder). One only needs to ask why Yahoo, Google, Instagram do not exist in China but TikTok is prevalent in the USA rotting the brains and facilitating ADHD of our youth today.

    It will be business as usual, with some caveats. USA will do a better job of protecting certain internal manufacturing interests.

    As far as USA getting back to glory days of Intel being #1. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

    The Arizona TMSC plant which started construction a year before the one in Japan isn't quite completed. The TMSC plant in Japan that started on year later than the Arizona plant was completed a year ago and is cranking stuff out. My dad used to be in contract manufacturing. He visited the construction site in Arizona with some colleagues, saw some stuff, and sighed: that would never happen in Taiwan.

    Meantime, there are cultural clashes with the TMSC way and the American way. Read a story recently on WSJ about an American engineer (female) who complained about a Taiwanese engineer with a bikini poster in his cube, or how Taiwanese managers flip out and criticize but never praise (praise works better for Americans - but I get the criticism - my dad NEVER praised me and TBH I feel stronger for it). Also language barriers too. My dad said such excuses are all bullshit because the Japanese don't speak Chinese and managed to get their plant up and running.

    I know many Americans will be pissed I said such things, but we need to take a deep look at ourselves. How the f**k did Intel, who was so far ahead in the chip manufacturing process, get so far behind? Oh, I know. Short term profit prioritizing and fear of risky and extensive investment to stay ahead. USA chipmaking got its ass handed to it. And for the jingoists who pheer immigrants, I dropped off my son at a machine learning camp at UT Austin. All the kids were east or south Asian. Like I mean ALL. I didn't see a single pure white kid, maybe a half-breed or two like my kids. The USA would be so fucked without immigrants (including illegals who pick berries, build homes, decks, etc.). Gen Z girls in the USA aren't gonna breed at JD Vance's command.
     
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    Finally this. It's from the Federal Reserve in St. Louis, not some "biased" commie website. This is the real reason why young people aren't making more babies. Has nothing to do with not enough God, pheer of LGBT, too many abortions and transgendered people, etc.

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    Excuses are for the weak, I got ran out of my previous profession due to world events, but I adapted, went back to school and now I tell those f**kers what to do.
     
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    Also from the Fed in St. Louis:
    US CPI 1989 to 2022.png
    When one compares the two graphs it is clear age groups 60s-70s have been treading water, 40s-50s are sinking and 20s-30s are drowning with anchors tied to them.

    But hey, the 0.01% wealth group doesn't have enough yet.
     
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    The combination of inflation, lack of housing and rising costs of living is going to drive the new group of 18-25 year olds to the brink of desperation. In the Netherlands there are not enough houses and the market is slowly locking up for the younger generation.

    At one point nobody will care about the environment and green energy anymore. Finding a house and keeping a job are going to become more difficult than ever.
     
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    Maybe not so much coordination in this sense... but let's say the world continues to splinter more. And more stuff than just chips or processing units become hard to acquire / mfg.

    I supposed wealth gap / lack of disposable income is another big problem. Still have to pay to play but it seems like there's less and less significant amounts of disposable income now amongst the majority of people. And I don't see a few rich people being able to prop this whole thing up. Work or no, cost of things as a % of median income is too high to be (generally) healthy for hobbies like this right now. And it's not like most audio mfgs or people in the business are buying their figurative new Ferraris and jets every year...
     
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    Here's top 0.1%

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    Here's 50-90%

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    Already happening. People are realizing all this green stuff, past a certain extent of practicality, is a scam. People were marketed green, just as they are marketed sugar drinks like Coca Cola. Green makes you feel better. Do your part. Make Greta and her rich friends proud.

    The problem with green solutions is that all of them are preventative, and even so, hardly making a dent, since the world's factory floor (China) is burning coal and who knows what else to make replaceable crap that we buy at Walmart. We should be spending money on disaster mitigation instead like seawalls, drainage, rainwater harvesting, desalination, controlled burns, etc. Because those f'ing solar panels I have on my roof ain't gonna do squat when Houston gets dumped on in the next hurricane.

    Still to write a diddy on how the prior owners of my place in San Antonio got ripped off on a solar installation, courtesy of fintech specializing in solar loansharking, I mean financing. The sellers were lucky we were buyers with significant cash and willing to deal with the solar nonsense. Don't get me wrong, solar power is pretty cool, and I feel good about burning less oil. But for most people financing solar, they are getting sold a shit sandwich.
     
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    Had too many people knocking on my door trying to sell me solar, keep telling them to get lost. On top of the steep cost and people financing them to get them on their house (which will put a lien on the deed on the house), too much $$$ for little payback. Also, it isn't like you are getting a good deal selling your power back to FPL or one of those power companies in the state.
     
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    I haven’t delved into the solar financing and prob won’t soon as we don’t plan on staying in this house, but how do they get you there? What’s the scam that they’re selling? I’m guessing some kind “no money down” wirh a huge back end.
     
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    I’m going REAL “green”. At the end of the month we’re putting a Vermont Castings Wood Stove in my 26x16 listening room/living room. I’ll burn wood at high efficiencies, and we’ll just use the oil for the hot water system (mostly). Heck, between the Oak down in a storm 18 months ago, and the just-felled black cherry (last week in a big storm), I’ve got over 1/2 cord right there; alls I gotta do is cut, split and stack (and age) it.

    Solar in mountainous NH for over half the year is an utter JOKE, payback/roi won’t happen until AFTER the life-span of the cells… not enough sun. Now, would I *like* to have it also as a backup, with sufficient battery and tertiary generator capacity? Sure… but I’ve an inkling REAL “cash” is going to be worth a lot more very soon…. And anyone who borrows or uses “special” financing for Solar is a perfect candidate for PT Barnum….

    What do I know, I came of adulthood in the mid 70’s during the last time we were HERE (and the fundamentals were far better then).
     
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