Modi Multibit: Multibit for the masses.

Discussion in 'Digital: DACs, USB converters, decrapifiers' started by MrTie, Jul 25, 2016.

  1. Thad E Ginathom

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    Surely you must have come across it? It is the ultimate science-base objective test used by audiophools to justify their more absurd purchases, especially crazy cables:

    "Even my wife could hear a difference from the kitchen."

    It has to be from the kitchen.

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    EDIT: <a few days later...> I must tell this one more often: I've never been liked so much!

    :D :bird:
     
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    dammit curiousity has gotten the best of me lol. just ordered one. i wonder how this little thing will stack against my Theta progeny~
     
  3. purr1n

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    Excellent! And I concur. From memory, the Gamma 2 possessed bass extension, power, and sustain of much greater DACs (along with a slightly dark tone with no / little digititus), but its resolution was poor. The Modi Multibit is better in every other way.

    Keep the impressions coming. They mirror what I heard in my limited time with it, but you guys are doing a better job at describing it.
     
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    Just put my order in. Will be able to compare directly to my Bifrost 4490.
     
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    @AustinValentine Gamma2 immediately came to mind when I heard the MMB. The former is more powerful and bassy sounding, maybe slightly darker and with a very smooth nature, but the MMB bests it with staging and resolution and might be a bit warmer overall (if that makes sense). I think the MMB has replaced the Gamma2 in my mind as the best <$300 DAC overall, despite me wishing the MMB had a bit bigger balls. Hard to complain at $250, though.
     
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    Just got the shipping notice for mine. It's coming with the Vali 2 and PYST cables to replace a Centrance HiFi-M8.
     
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    Got it yesterday, hooked it up at work today... worked for about 20 minutes then nothing. Sighhh.. (now playing with windows drivers etc) What I heard was great. I would say it sounds like they took the best parts of the Gungnir Multibit and bifrost mutltibit implementation and created the perfect balance. Not too warm/or bright.. For $250 this a no brainer! Hope they offer upgrades to the bifrost/Gungnir Multibit line in the future at the very least refresh the usb interface. And I still like the Moby name. **Update** looks like it's dead :(
     
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    Gamma 2 is still one of the better DACs I've owned, despite it being so old. I was always surprised how little it gets brought up and recommended. Especially in the lower price bracket discussions.

    Good to hear the Modi Multibit is similar, definitely good company to be in. If it is a similar flavor, but is better overall, at a cheaper price, and nicer on the eyes, kind of a no brainer imo..
     
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    I'm wondering the same thing. I can see giving your tube amp time to warm up, but what would be the possible benefit for a DAC?
     
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    New, eh? These multibit chips need time for their temp to stabilize.
     
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    IIRC, Mike or Jason mentioned 24 hours for most of the way there. I didn't hear nearly as much change as I did with either the Bifrost Multibit or Gungnir Multibit. Modi gets warm pretty damn fast.

    This is pretty extensively discussed across the site re: multibit DACs. But, before heading to search, take a pitstop at the New Member thread and introduce yourself.
     
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    Received the Moby today! SN ~00119

    Curious about this, the Gun/Yggdrasil has "Adapticlock analysis and VCXO/VCO regeneration" on the inputs.

    Anything like that in the Moby (or Bifrost Multibit)?

    It does run very warm (~50C), seems to get up to temp quick sealed in that tiny box, pretty cool.

    Going back to music now, wow, gotta take this in, and break in ma' ears ;)
     
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    Just placed an order for the Modi Multibit today. Luckily my Modi 2 Uber was delivered within 30 days ago so they're letting me exchange it (I think, might just get a percentage of credit, who knows but either way extremely happy).
     
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    Based on the photos of the circuit board, Mombit appears to have the same USB input circuit as Bifrost, but perhaps with a less sophisticated power supply. According to Jason's chapter on the Modi, Mike built the Modi prototype on a Bifrost USB card, so it wouldn't be surprising if they used the same circuit. The S/PDIF circuit uses the AKM 4113 just like the rest of the DACs including the Yggdrasil, so it wouldn't be surprising if it has the Adapticlock stuff too, but the photos of the Bifrost S/PDIF circuit look a little different.
     
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    This is what their 3rd Gen USB input is all about.
    It detects quality issues with the USB connection and then depending on what it's plugged into will either pick the higher or lower precision clocks/oscillators.
    Modi & Bifrost have 2nd Gen USB inputs and therefore do not have this functionality.
     
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    3rd Gen USB is currently only exclusive on Yggdrasil. The adapticlock technology is something that's probably built into the Gungnir/Yggdrasil board and not the USB module.
     
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    Adapticlock is applied to all their digital inputs. Not just USB. USB gen 3 is only on Yggdrasil though I have no idea why it hasn't trickled down to the Bifrost Multibit or Gungnir Multibit.
     
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    What would be the point? No one is even using USB these days. :D
     
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    Oops :p Didn't realise it was for all the inputs. I assumed that its associated "buy better gear" light was like a litmus test for USB quality.
    Lesson learnt; Assumptions are like fuckups waiting to happen.

    USB isn't always the worst option. The optical outputs on many PC motherboards are utter garbage.
     

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