Comments on Profile Post by bobboxbody

  1. caute
    caute
    the amount of biopolitical shit smokers get today is hysterical and condescendingly paternalistic
    Jul 17, 2023
  2. bobboxbody
    bobboxbody
    I actually think smoking is very bad for you and I "quit" about 8 years ago but have been flirting with a cigarette here and there for the last couple years. But mostly I saw a good chance to bastardize one of my favorite wes anderson quotes.
    Jul 17, 2023
  3. schiit
    schiit
    With the nootropic effects of nicotine, there is possibly an age at which the benefits of it outweigh the risk. That said, I quit a while ago due to its less positive effects. Not for me anymore. Sadly.
    Jul 17, 2023
  4. Priidik
    Priidik
    Randomized human control trials are only one sided on this. Same with alcohol. Same with lack of movement and exercise. Same with diabetes. These are the levers.
    Wanna smoke? Do everything else right and you might fly under the radar to your 70'ties.
    Jul 18, 2023
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  5. YMO
    YMO
    I hate cigs with a passion. As someone who smokes only pipe tobacco and cigars, cig smoke is disgusting with all the chemicals they put in that stuff. Big difference when smoking 100% tobacco and stuff that is tobacco plus additives. I normally smoke my pipe when reading manga.
    Jul 18, 2023
  6. Claritas
    Claritas
    Who *likes* being an addict? The other thing is that I find that nicotine fills a small emotional void. But it fills it with mediocre energy. I could be filling it with something better instead. So my using nicotine comes with that opportunity cost. And if I don't find a new and better source of emotional energy, I'll probably relapse in a few months.
    Jul 18, 2023
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  7. Tchoupitoulas
    Tchoupitoulas
    Leonard Cohen started smoking again when he turned 80. “It’s the right age to recommence,” he explained.
    Jul 18, 2023
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  8. dasman66
    dasman66
    It probably depends what you're smoking... smoking tobacco - bad/demonoize those smokers. smoking weed - good/we need more recreational weed... it has a health benefit. I hate the smell of both and I never understood either side, but that is the current political climate.

    Maybe its just govt trying to replace a diminishing revenue stream with another?
    Jul 18, 2023
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  9. DigMe
    DigMe
    @Claritas there has been a lot of interesting research around the unmet needs that addiction fills (I mean needs that are not directly related to the object of addiction).
    Jul 18, 2023
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  10. bobboxbody
    bobboxbody
    To be clear, I don't "like" cigarettes, but there's a part of my mind where they're the best thing that has ever been created and will be glorious, revelatory, relaxing, invigorating, and orgasmic if smoked. In reality, once I've convinced myself and actually lit one, the first drag is really good and the rest of the cigarette is mediocre to awful, but I smoke it anyway.
    Jul 18, 2023
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  11. bobboxbody
    bobboxbody
    It should be noted that I'm an addict in all things and come from a long family history of such. Nicotine and caffeine have been my last remaining vices for a long time. I vape regularly, but no clouds everywhere and I make my own liquid without flavoring from lab tested nicotine and glycerine, relatively low health risk despite all the big tobacco financed "scientific studies" and political/public opinion lobbying.
    Jul 18, 2023
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  12. Thad E Ginathom
    Thad E Ginathom
    I'm a born-again non smoker, so you can guess how I feel about smoking. Myself or others.

    It's been thirty-one years, I don't think about it really... but if I'm being made to suffer by someone else's smoke, I reflect that I used to do that. That otherwise kind, considerate, charming people (and me) /do/ that!
    Jul 18, 2023
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  13. Thad E Ginathom
    Thad E Ginathom
    @Tchoupitoulas "Leonard Cohen started smoking again when he turned 80"

    Yeah, well.... Just ask him if he's still alive now!
    Jul 18, 2023
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  14. bobboxbody
    bobboxbody
    In the 6 or so years I was smoke free I never stopped loving the smell of cigarettes, my Dad says they still smell great to him after 30+ years of being quit.
    Jul 18, 2023
  15. Thad E Ginathom
    Thad E Ginathom
    I guess I was born to smoke. I used to love the smell of the tobacco tins that my dad kept screws and nails in!

    But somehow, since a year or two after giving up, no, I hate it. And it hurts my chest. I think I /might/ still like the smell of the leaf.
    Jul 18, 2023
  16. yotacowboy
    yotacowboy
    It's the opposite for me, i quit about 8 years ago after about 18 years at a pack a day and now just the smell turns my stomach.
    Jul 18, 2023
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  17. penguins
    penguins
    Even if it theoretically had 0 health negatives, at most, I would go from non-cigarette smoker to a pack a year at most.

    Cigarettes typically feel like the fast food version of cigars or cigarillos to me at best.
    Jul 18, 2023
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  18. penguins
    penguins
    If it's cigars or pipe though - it's been studied and statistically shown over time that there is a definite but MUCH smaller negative health impact vs other forms of tobacco usage. IIRC one of the studies showed worse long term outcomes for non-cigar smokers being what we would probably consider mildly (~15lb?) over or underweight vs a healthy weight person with occasional cigar usage.
    Jul 18, 2023
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  19. bobboxbody
    bobboxbody
    I like cigars and pipes and have flirted with both over the years, I even bought a full box of cuban montechristo #4 in the late 90's and smuggled them back from europe. My only problem is that I seem incapable of inhaling at some point, and then I'm just inhaling giant wads of tar heavy unfiltered smoke, although the last 10 years I smoked in earnest was about 50 unfiltered cigarettes a day.
    Jul 19, 2023
  20. zottel
    zottel
    I smoke 0-5 cigarettes a day, 3-4 on most weekdays and 0 on most weekends. Every year I quit for two months just to show myself that I can, and then I start again—because I like smoking.
    The fact that no one else in the family is a smoker helps keeping it at low volumes.
    Jul 19, 2023
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  21. Thad E Ginathom
    Thad E Ginathom
    @YMO and friends, the cigars that you smoke might be doing you less harm than cigarettes, but in terms of nuisance value to those around you, they are far, far worse. Even when I was a smoker, I objected to cigars in public.
    Jul 19, 2023
  22. YMO
    YMO
    Jul 19, 2023
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  23. Merrick
    Merrick
    No need to even smoke marijuana, you can use a dry herb vaporizer and get better flavor, more and better high, and can make powerful weed drinks out of the leftovers. Tobacco pretty much has to be smoked or chewed though.
    Jul 20, 2023
  24. Thad E Ginathom
    Thad E Ginathom
    Seriously! (for once)... @YMO, I'm happy to know that you do not inflict cigar smoke on others. What you do in private is... in private :)
    Jul 20, 2023